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Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
RR,

Here are some standard materials for you to study:

RELS:1080 Introduction to the New Testament
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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
(August 1, 2018 at 3:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:However Carrier is far from the mainstream consensus.  

Tell me something, RR.  Are you incapable or just unwilling to think for yourself.  Why do you feel compelled to select "experts" ( and you mainly seem to choose those who tell you what you want to hear ) to lead you by the nose?

I know xhristards are sheep but you could put up a little resistance.
Oh no Min he's "weighed and measured the evidence " Dodgy 

And came totally unbiased to Christianity Tongue

(August 1, 2018 at 3:20 pm)Jehanne Wrote: RR,

Here are some standard materials for you to study:

RELS:1080 Introduction to the New Testament
Maybe you should start with a coloring book with him  Smile
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
(August 1, 2018 at 3:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:However Carrier is far from the mainstream consensus.  

Tell me something, RR.  Are you incapable or just unwilling to think for yourself.  Why do you feel compelled to select "experts" ( and you mainly seem to choose those who tell you what you want to hear ) to lead you by the nose?

I know xhristards are sheep but you could put up a little resistance.

I select experts by what they have to say (and the reasons they give).   You may note, that I'm the one asking for the evidence or reason here (quite often).  I don't just dismiss him as a mythicists, but address  the issues with the reasoning.

I'm not the one dismissing a priori, as just apologetics.

(August 1, 2018 at 3:15 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(August 1, 2018 at 3:05 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Dr. Richard Carrier advocates a minority hypothesis; so what?  With respect to low-level NT criticism, Dr. Carrier's views are completely mainstream.
He desperate to misrepresent your position and make baseless accusations of bias . And then misrepresents Carrier and shows he has fuck all understanding of his work  . Then actually has the balls to declare he's listen or weighed the evidence before deciding. I'm shocked reality didn't collapse  into a singularity of bullshit from that statement .

What do you feel that I misrepresented from Carrier's work?
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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Quote:What do you feel that I misrepresented from Carrier's work?
How about anytime you employ any criticism of him and the saddest part is you objections are just parroting idiots like Tim O Neil .

Quote: select experts by what they have to say (and the reasons they give).  
No you don't you pick them because they support your position 


Quote: You may note, that I'm the one asking for the evidence or reason here (quite often).
Yup as a motivated skeptic who has no interest in said evidence



Quote:I don't just dismiss him as a mythicists, but address  the issues with the reasoning.
Yes you do and no you don't 


Quote:I'm not the one dismissing a priori, as just apologetics.
Rubbish
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
(August 1, 2018 at 3:38 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:What do you feel that I misrepresented from Carrier's work?
How about anytime you employ any criticism of him and the saddest part is you objections are just parroting idiots like Tim O Neil .

Do you have something specific?  Otherwise I'm just going to ignore this as your normal blather / chest thumping.   If I am misunderstanding however, I would like to know.   If you can't provide something specific, then I'm just going to ignore it.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
Quote:Do you have something specific? 
Why would i need to be specific when my point was your entire criticism is wrong .


Quote: Otherwise I'm just going to ignore this as your normal blather / chest thumping. 
By all means ignore me it does not alter the fact you do as i have said .You call it chest thumping i rightly call it stating a fact .



Quote: If I am misunderstanding however, I would like to know. 
No you don't want to know .Because you whole case against Carrier is a misunderstanding and that'[s all you have .



Quote:  If you can't provide something specific, then I'm just going to ignore it.
As i said do so it's not like your not going to anyway and i'll be spared a small novels worth of you empty non points and tired mental gymnastics .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
Here's the book, RR:

A Brief Introduction to the New Testament 4th Edition

But it and enjoy!!
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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
(August 1, 2018 at 4:28 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Here's the book, RR:

A Brief Introduction to the New Testament 4th Edition

But it and enjoy!!

Do you have a specific topic, that I can research and we can discuss here?
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
Quote:Do you have a specific topic, that I can research and we can discuss here?
Let the dodging continue
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
(August 1, 2018 at 4:28 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Here's the book, RR:

A Brief Introduction to the New Testament 4th Edition

But it and enjoy!!

This is getting stupid. You claimed that RR's views "do not represent modern scholarship; you are an extremist, as far as higher Biblical scholarship is concerned."

There is no way you can support that. You overreached and now can't figure out how get out gracefully. Dodging specifics and then posting a book to buy is so lame.
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