According to polls, Hillary is president...

(August 7, 2018 at 9:03 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

Quote:This is the general theory of wages and voting preferences in a sentence: The more income you make, the more likely you are to vote Republican ... or to vote, at all.

It's a long-held political axiom, and it's upheld in a recent study by PayScale, the nation's largest private salary survey company. In research shared with The Atlantic, they showed that Americans who make less than $70,000 (about 70% of the country) are considerably more likely to vote Democratic. Those making more than $70,000 are more likely to vote Republican.

Does Your Wage Predict Your Vote?

If we skip ideology it all boils down to resources and those who are more willing to share, and those whom are paranoid and have way more than they need.

This is how lust for power and greed work in our species history. 

It's sad that millionaires and billionaires worldwide, cannot see that they are needlessly and dangerously causing global instability by not recognizing that 62 uber billionaire individual/families have the combined wealth of 3 billion humans. Sitting on all that money just to have it when it could be used to stabilize global hot spots, is sad. 

Even though America is better off than a lot of countries, our rich use that carrot of "American dream" to divide Americans and get urban blacks and rural whites pitted against each other. The truth of economic conservatism isn't about making workers lives better, but it is a race to the bottom, so we can look like the one party authoritarian capitalism like China, based on no regulations, no workers rights and cheap labor.

(August 7, 2018 at 9:53 am)alpha male Wrote: According to polls, Hillary is president...

We never forget or forgive. Ever, while you still live.

(August 7, 2018 at 9:40 am)alpha male Wrote: I agree with you there. That's why the right favors individual responsibility over a welfare state.

Well, conservatives favor individual responsibility. "The Right" is a more mixed bag, with many elements of it only too happy to indulge in cult-of-personality group think, open racism, conspiracy theories, and the routine (and mindless) vilification of anyone slightly left of Genghis Khan. Care to explain how any of that squares with conservatism?

Yes, I know that pocket-book conservatives like you normally shouldn't have to defend the lunatic fringe of the right, but we're in the mess we have precisely because conservatives -- and more precisely, the GOP -- have courted these fuckers for years. Now you have them, and your nominee won the presidency by pandering to their worst instincts. You pricks now own this mess.

(August 7, 2018 at 10:13 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(August 7, 2018 at 9:53 am)alpha male Wrote: According to polls, Hillary is president...

We never forget or forgive. Ever, while you still live.

I am not into revenge, but no, I also don't have to forget or forgive.

(August 7, 2018 at 10:44 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(August 7, 2018 at 10:13 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: We never forget or forgive. Ever, while you still live.

I am not into revenge, but no, I also don't have to forget or forgive.

I will never again put up with Republicans lecturing me on patriotism. They can collectively go fuck themselves.

(August 7, 2018 at 10:42 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Well, conservatives favor individual responsibility. "The Right" is a more mixed bag, with many elements of it only too happy to indulge in cult-of-personality group think, open racism, conspiracy theories, and the routine (and mindless) vilification of anyone slightly left of Genghis Khan. Care to explain how any of that squares with conservatism?

OK, change right to conservative.

Quote:Yes, I know that pocket-book conservatives like you normally shouldn't have to defend the lunatic fringe of the right, but we're in the mess we have precisely because conservatives -- and more precisely, the GOP -- have courted these fuckers for years. Now you have them, and your nominee won the presidency by pandering to their worst instincts. You pricks now own this mess.

I don't see that low unemployment and high economic growth constitute a mess.

(August 7, 2018 at 9:53 am)alpha male Wrote: According to polls, Hillary is president...

Including the election.

(August 7, 2018 at 10:46 am)alpha male Wrote:

(August 7, 2018 at 10:42 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Well, conservatives favor individual responsibility. "The Right" is a more mixed bag, with many elements of it only too happy to indulge in cult-of-personality group think, open racism, conspiracy theories, and the routine (and mindless) vilification of anyone slightly left of Genghis Khan. Care to explain how any of that squares with conservatism?

OK, change right to conservative.

Quote:Yes, I know that pocket-book conservatives like you normally shouldn't have to defend the lunatic fringe of the right, but we're in the mess we have precisely because conservatives -- and more precisely, the GOP -- have courted these fuckers for years. Now you have them, and your nominee won the presidency by pandering to their worst instincts. You pricks now own this mess.

I don't see that low unemployment and high economic growth constitute a mess.

Yes, I understand that myopia results in poor vision. It’s a shame you can’t see a bigger picture, here. But what’s a little fraud and conspiracy, as long as you have yours, right?

Once upon a time, there were conservatives in this country who stood for more than the bottom line. Obviously, you’re not one of them.

(August 7, 2018 at 10:46 am)alpha male Wrote:

(August 7, 2018 at 10:42 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Well, conservatives favor individual responsibility. "The Right" is a more mixed bag, with many elements of it only too happy to indulge in cult-of-personality group think, open racism, conspiracy theories, and the routine (and mindless) vilification of anyone slightly left of Genghis Khan. Care to explain how any of that squares with conservatism?

OK, change right to conservative.

Quote:Yes, I know that pocket-book conservatives like you normally shouldn't have to defend the lunatic fringe of the right, but we're in the mess we have precisely because conservatives -- and more precisely, the GOP -- have courted these fuckers for years. Now you have them, and your nominee won the presidency by pandering to their worst instincts. You pricks now own this mess.

I don't see that low unemployment and high economic growth constitute a mess.

WAGES dumbass. 

The GOP and corporations LOVE your short term memory. 

There was virtually no middle class and very little regulation when the stock market crashed and caused the great depression. REAGAN undid all the work FDR set up with the New Deal and that undoing of financial regulations, anti monopoly and union busting has simply set up the billionaire class to USE YOU YOU DUMBASS. Those policies also lead to Bush's housing'bank/car crash. 

The economy doing good now is ARTIFICIAL and still based on DEBT caused by billionaire tax breaks they do not need. 


Our 1% at the top love socialism, they socialize the profits in the private sector when they win, and socialize the losses on YOU YOU DUMBASS when they lose. That is what a "bailout" is.

Low unemployment has nothing to do with WAGES still not meeting the cost of living. That isn't just about poor urban blacks, it is also about the wages of the middle class and poor rural whites.

GOP congress loves you, you are a SUCKER.