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the god created science argument
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Ok. So your sayin the laws of physics. Has shown supernatural tendencies. Physics is I'm sure u know the basis of how the universe works
Bill Maher: If you believe that the world is going to come to an end - and perhaps any day now - does it not drain one's motivation to improve life on earth while we're here?
"There is no empirical evidence for or against spirit."
I'll send a shout out for Ace here and suggest the application of Ockham's Razor at this juncture.
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 RE: the god created science argument
September 18, 2011 at 11:08 am
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2011 at 11:12 am by Ace Otana.)
Absalutely. Ockham's or if you will Occam's (two ways of spelling it) should always be applied.
"The simplest explanation for some phenomenon is more likely to be accurate than more complicated explanations." In this case, the simplest explanation is that you're mistaken. Stick to the simplest till there is evidence for the more complex. Opt for the explanation requiring the fewest assumptions. "We could still imagine that there is a set of laws that determines events completely for some supernatural being, who could observe the present state of the universe without disturbing it. However, it seems better to employ the principle known as Occam's razor and cut out all the features of the theory for which cannot be observed."
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity. Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist. You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.  Quote:Where do you get the idea that physics disproves God? Science has nothing to say about the supernatural IF you believe in a god it is up to you to provide evidence for him. Its your proposal - you defend it. Science shows us that your god is an unnecessary bit of twaddle in the discussion So far all I've seen from you before I lost interest in your ramblings was that you looked at a landscape and thought jesus grabbed your dick or some such nonsense. 
If something really exists, it can be discovered.
If it can be discovered, it can be studied. If it can be studied, it can be understood. If it can be understood, it can be explained. If it can be explained, it's part of the natural universe. Ergo, "supernatural" that exists is natural.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too." ... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept "(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question" ... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist  (September 18, 2011 at 6:07 am)lucent Wrote: Where do you get the idea that physics disproves God? Science has nothing to say about the supernatural. There is no empirical evidence for or against spirit. Well, actually science has a lot to say about the supernatural. The field is called neurotheology. http://www.npr.org/2010/12/15/132078267/...ce-collide just look it up on google. Just another example of how the supernatural becomes natural.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity. Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist. You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.  (September 18, 2011 at 4:07 pm)weakagnostic Wrote: Well, actually science has a lot to say about the supernatural. The field is called neurotheology. http://www.npr.org/2010/12/15/132078267/...ce-collide just look it up on google. Just another example of how the supernatural becomes natural. All this says is that if one calms down and takes control of their life, things will get better. It specifically states "...neurotheology won't provide definitive findings about things like the existence of a higher power...". Supernatural does not come into play at all. Why? Because 'supernatural' does not exist. Basically, it nothing more than an oxymoron. If it exists, it is natural.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy 
That is because nature could be described as "all that is".... Or at least that is the way I see it.
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