(September 23, 2018 at 10:03 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 23, 2018 at 9:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

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Indisputable fact...

No, it simply shows that you're capable of the fallacy of ignoratio elenchi.  You were claiming that the original Hebrews were black.  For evidence you brought out that some of the oldest Jewish communities in Africa were black, and that an Ethiopian came to Jerusalem and read Jewish literature.  Neither of those show that the original Hebrews were black, much less indisputably so.

The term used was 'ancient' not oldest...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of..._in_Africa
The most ancient communities of African Jews are the Ethiopian, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jews of North Africa and the Horn of Africa.[/quote]

Moses's wife was black which is indisputable fact.
Moses was adopted by the daughter of Pharaoh.

Moses was mistaken for an Egyptian
Exodus 2:16-20

Quote:16 Now the priest of Midian had seven daughters: and they came and drew water, and filled the troughs to water their father's flock.
17 And the shepherds came and drove them away: but Moses stood up and helped them, and watered their flock.
18 And when they came to Reuel their father, he said, How is it that ye are come so soon to day?
19 And they said, An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock.
20 And he said unto his daughters, And where is he? why is it that ye have left the man? call him, that he may eat bread.

Is that good enough for you?

The Hebrews being black was MY POINT which really had nothing to do with Khemikal implying that Christianity didn't exist in Africa before the Atlantic slave trade.

The  indisputable fact is that it did...

(September 23, 2018 at 7:54 pm)Joods Wrote: Maybe the thread should be split if it's going to involve Huggy trying to prove a point.

Isn't "winning" the debate by proving some random, usually irrelevant, point Smuggies M.O.?!?

(September 23, 2018 at 10:32 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:

(September 23, 2018 at 7:54 pm)Joods Wrote: Maybe the thread should be split if it's going to involve Huggy trying to prove a point.

Isn't "winning" the debate by proving some random, usually irrelevant, point Smuggies M.O.?!?

Usually. That and quote mining. Let's not forget that as a requirement for that fool to even attempt to make a point.

(September 23, 2018 at 10:02 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(September 23, 2018 at 9:37 pm)Fireball Wrote: Several weeks ago, I witnessed an epic reading fail on the hugster's part. I busted his chops, and in the inevitable ensuing back and forth, I was asked "What do YOU think it means!?" From that point on, I've really resisted interfacing with the hugster. Everyone else can imagine why. It is really sad.

Several weeks ago? you mean this post from 6 months ago?

(February 10, 2018 at 8:55 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Well since your head is apparently so far up Khems backside you can see what he's thinking, how about YOU explaining what he meant.

regarding this post?

(February 9, 2018 at 6:35 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The following exchange show that some atheists are fine with genocide under certain circumstances.

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STILL KING of the quote mine! And still dumber than a bag of hammers. This makes the last time I respond to a post of yours, or a response thereof. It's only been done this time to demonstrate what a fucking idjit you are, to illuminate another's response. You know, I generally try to avoid pointing how actually stupid people can be, since it is kind of mean to do. You got me this time. It won't happen again. :nod:

(September 23, 2018 at 10:42 pm)Fireball Wrote:

(September 23, 2018 at 10:02 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Several weeks ago? you mean this post from 6 months ago?



regarding this post?

STILL KING of the quote mine! And still dumber than a bag of hammers. This makes the last time I respond to a post of yours, or a response thereof. It's only been done this time to demonstrate what a fucking idjit you are, to illuminate another's response. You know, I generally try to avoid pointing how actually stupid people can be, since it is kind of mean to do. You got me this time. It won't happen again. :nod:

Huggy broke Fireball.  That’s how stupid he is, lol. 😂

(September 23, 2018 at 10:32 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(September 23, 2018 at 10:03 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: No, it simply shows that you're capable of the fallacy of ignoratio elenchi.  You were claiming that the original Hebrews were black.  For evidence you brought out that some of the oldest Jewish communities in Africa were black, and that an Ethiopian came to Jerusalem and read Jewish literature.  Neither of those show that the original Hebrews were black, much less indisputably so.

The term used was 'ancient' not oldest...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of..._in_Africa
The most ancient communities of African Jews are the Ethiopian, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jews of North Africa and the Horn of Africa.

Moses's wife was black which is indisputable fact.
Moses was adopted by the daughter of Pharaoh.

Moses was mistaken for an Egyptian
Exodus 2:16-20

Quote:16 Now the priest of Midian had seven daughters: and they came and drew water, and filled the troughs to water their father's flock.
17 And the shepherds came and drove them away: but Moses stood up and helped them, and watered their flock.
18 And when they came to Reuel their father, he said, How is it that ye are come so soon to day?
19 And they said, An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock.
20 And he said unto his daughters, And where is he? why is it that ye have left the man? call him, that he may eat bread.

Is that good enough for you?

No it's not, Huggy. Your adding the term ancient doesn't add anything to it. That the communities in Africa are the most ancient communities in Africa doesn't mean that they were the original Hebrews. Even according to the bible, there were 12 generations preceding Moses. So you're not even close, in addition to having once again committed ignoratio elenchi. If I were the oldest member of my family living in America, it wouldn't show that my original family was American. Additionally, your passage from Exodus doesn't demonstrate anything because Moses was an Egyptian by adoption and not by birth, so that he was considered an Egyptian by the daughters of Midian doesn't show that he was black. But by all means, keep adding to the Dunning-Kruger argument instead of subtracting from it. (In addition, I don't believe you brought up the Exodus passage in the original thread, so it would be irrelevant anyway. You claimed you had consistently won debates against Khem, past tense; any new arguments you make aren't relevant to whether you won the debate.)

(September 23, 2018 at 10:42 pm)Fireball Wrote:

(September 23, 2018 at 10:02 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Several weeks ago? you mean this post from 6 months ago?



regarding this post?

STILL KING of the quote mine! And still dumber than a bag of hammers. This makes the last time I respond to a post of yours, or a response thereof. It's only been done this time to demonstrate what a fucking idjit you are, to illuminate another's response. You know, I generally try to avoid pointing how actually stupid people can be, since it is kind of mean to do. You got me this time. It won't happen again. :nod:

If you say so...

The fact that I had an interaction with you 7 months ago (which was the last one) and you remember it like it was last week, says a lot more about you than me...

(September 23, 2018 at 10:35 pm)Joods Wrote:

(September 23, 2018 at 10:32 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Isn't "winning" the debate by proving some random, usually irrelevant, point Smuggies M.O.?!?

Usually. That and quote mining. Let's not forget that as a requirement for that fool to even attempt to make a point.

Let's not forget moving the goalposts all over hell and back. I even thought of suggesting that if they implement that smiley, that it be given the code :huggy:

Didn't think Tibs would like the  idea though.

This is all fun and games and all, but I’m still wondering why his name is huggy. Everything else is self explanatory.  

(September 23, 2018 at 10:51 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 23, 2018 at 10:32 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The term used was 'ancient' not oldest...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of..._in_Africa
The most ancient communities of African Jews are the Ethiopian, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jews of North Africa and the Horn of Africa.

Moses's wife was black which is indisputable fact.
Moses was adopted by the daughter of Pharaoh.

Moses was mistaken for an Egyptian
Exodus 2:16-20



Is that good enough for you?

No it's not, Huggy.  Your adding the term ancient doesn't add anything to it.  That the communities in Africa are the most ancient communities in Africa doesn't mean that they were the original Hebrews.   Even according to the bible, there were 12 generations preceding Moses.  So you're not even close, in addition to having once again committed ignoratio elenchi.   If I were the oldest member of my family living in America, it wouldn't show that my original family was American.  Additionally, your passage from Exodus doesn't demonstrate anything because Moses was an Egyptian by adoption and not by birth, so that he was considered an Egyptian by the daughters of Midian doesn't show that he was black.  But by all means, keep adding to the Dunning-Kruger argument instead of subtracting from it.

Sigh...

The daughter of Midian had no idea Moses was adopted, he was a fugitive at this time, they said he was Egyptian based on his appearance....

But that was NOT Khemikals argument, his argument was implying that Christianity wasn't in Africa before the Atlantic slave trade. The point I was making was that not only did black Christians exist before the Atlantic slave trade, but we go back much further.

I see how you're completely avoiding that subject.