(October 4, 2018 at 5:04 pm)Joods Wrote:

(October 4, 2018 at 4:58 pm)Dom Wrote: I had no choice. He was more or less part of my life for 50 fucking years.

Huh?

Ugh. Not used to the quotes here. The conversation was cut off - the reply was to Huggy asking if the raped continued contact with the rapist. Now I can't even find the post.

(crawls under rock and consumes coffee)

(October 4, 2018 at 5:09 pm)Dom Wrote:

(October 4, 2018 at 5:04 pm)Joods Wrote: Huh?

Ugh. Not used to the quotes here. The conversation was cut off - the reply was to Huggy asking if the raped continued contact with the rapist. Now I can't even find the post.

(crawls under rock and consumes coffee)

  You'll get it eventually. In the meantime, allow me to put this here IV in your arm for quicker caffeine absorbency.

(October 4, 2018 at 5:09 pm)Dom Wrote:

(October 4, 2018 at 5:04 pm)Joods Wrote: Huh?

Ugh. Not used to the quotes here. The conversation was cut off - the reply was to Huggy asking if the raped continued contact with the rapist. Now I can't even find the post.

(crawls under rock and consumes coffee)

I remember the post, and I responded to it. I'm really fucking tired of rape being nullified if a victim talks to their abuser after the fact. Like, do kids whose parents kick their asses all of a sudden have no claim to abuse because they continue a relationship with them?

(October 4, 2018 at 9:44 pm)Shell B Wrote:

(October 4, 2018 at 5:09 pm)Dom Wrote: Ugh. Not used to the quotes here. The conversation was cut off - the reply was to Huggy asking if the raped continued contact with the rapist. Now I can't even find the post.

(crawls under rock and consumes coffee)

I remember the post, and I responded to it. I'm really fucking tired of rape being nullified if a victim talks to their abuser after the fact. Like, do kids whose parents kick their asses all of a sudden have no claim to abuse because they continue a relationship with them?

You're comparing apples and oranges.

Kids have no choice in having to deal with family members.

I see no reason why grown ass adult who was raped by someone she was acquainted with would continue to contact this person after the fact, especially every valentines day. That's seems to be behavior consistent with a consensual relationship.

If not then how else do you expect one to prove consent 18 years after the fact?

(October 4, 2018 at 10:37 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(October 4, 2018 at 9:44 pm)Shell B Wrote: I remember the post, and I responded to it. I'm really fucking tired of rape being nullified if a victim talks to their abuser after the fact. Like, do kids whose parents kick their asses all of a sudden have no claim to abuse because they continue a relationship with them?

You're comparing apples and oranges.

Kids have no choice in having to deal with family members.

I see no reason why grown ass adult who was raped by someone she was acquainted with would continue to contact this person after the fact, especially every valentines day. That's seems to be behavior consistent with a consensual relationship.

If not then how else do you expect one to prove consent 18 years after the fact?

You know you can be raped in a consensual relationship, right? You know you can have Stockholm Syndrome, low self-esteem, lack of intelligence and any number of other qualities that lead you to continue contact with your assailant? My ex punched me, picked my up by my neck and body-slammed me, literally ripped a door off its hinges and threw it at me, intimidated me constantly, cheated on me, gaslit me, and so on. I stayed with him for 10 years. The many and varied reasons are none of anyone's business and do not at all diminish what happened. He's still guilty of everything he did. Me making a phone call one or 100 times does not at all change a single damn thing about it. Sexual abuse is no different. I know women personally who stay in contact with men who've sexually assaulted them. I say women because there are about a handful of them that I know of. I don't have a lot of close friends, Huggy. That should tell you how common it is for a person to stay in contact with an abuser. It's a known psychological phenomenon.

Huggy, you do not understand what you're talking about. He may or may not be guilty, but you clearly don't know anything about how victim's behave and maybe should find another angle to argue your point. This angle is not a good one. It's not logical.

(October 4, 2018 at 10:37 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(October 4, 2018 at 9:44 pm)Shell B Wrote: I remember the post, and I responded to it. I'm really fucking tired of rape being nullified if a victim talks to their abuser after the fact. Like, do kids whose parents kick their asses all of a sudden have no claim to abuse because they continue a relationship with them?

You're comparing apples and oranges.

Kids have no choice in having to deal with family members.

I see no reason why grown ass adult who was raped by someone she was acquainted with would continue to contact this person after the fact, especially every valentines day. That's seems to be behavior consistent with a consensual relationship.

If not then how else do you expect one to prove consent 18 years after the fact?

Hugster, as a kid who was emotionally and physically abused I can say you obviously have no clue what you’re talking about.

I attempted to keep contact with the person responsible for my abuse well into my “reasonable” adult years, for reasons I can barely articulate. I eventually ended that relationship, to my betterment.

You are not taking emotion and trauma into account. You cannot know the mind of the people you’re talking about, but by all means continue the peanut gallery conversation you’re having with yourself.

(October 4, 2018 at 11:33 pm)Shell B Wrote:

(October 4, 2018 at 10:37 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: You're comparing apples and oranges.

Kids have no choice in having to deal with family members.

I see no reason why grown ass adult who was raped by someone she was acquainted with would continue to contact this person after the fact, especially every valentines day. That's seems to be behavior consistent with a consensual relationship.

If not then how else do you expect one to prove consent 18 years after the fact?

You know you can be raped in a consensual relationship, right? You know you can have Stockholm Syndrome, low self-esteem, lack of intelligence and any number of other qualities that lead you to continue contact with your assailant? My ex punched me, picked my up by my neck and body-slammed me, literally ripped a door off its hinges and threw it at me, intimidated me constantly, cheated on me, gaslit me, and so on. I stayed with him for 10 years. The many and varied reasons are none of anyone's business and do not at all diminish what happened. He's still guilty of everything he did. Me making a phone call one or 100 times does not at all change a single damn thing about it. Sexual abuse is no different. I know women personally who stay in contact with men who've sexually assaulted them. I say women because there are about a handful of them that I know of. I don't have a lot of close friends, Huggy. That should tell you how common it is for a person to stay in contact with an abuser. It's a known psychological phenomenon.

Huggy, you do not understand what you're talking about. He may or may not be guilty, but you clearly don't know anything about how victim's behave and maybe should find another angle to argue your point. This angle is not a good one. It's not logical.

Again, we aren't talking about the same thing. Emotional and physical abuse I get, but the Cosby case is not that.

Constand DID contact the police but before she contacted police she was already searching for a lawyer who specialized in sexual assault lawsuits, not to mention she's contradicting all types of testimony she gave to the police initially. Generally when someone is telling the truth, their story remains consistent.

So again, if we're just going to abandon all reason when it comes to allegations of sexual assault, how is one suppose to defend themselves, especially 18 years later? Not to mention the fact that no one can point to one shred of evidence that was presented in the case that proves Cosby raped Constand.

If we can't judge her based on her actions, can we judge her based on her testimony?