(October 4, 2018 at 2:30 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(September 30, 2018 at 2:25 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Are there atheists here who believe that there is some sort of afterlife? I personally still believe that there is something in afterlife, even if I dislike the idea.

I'm an atheist. But I still believe in the afterlife.

Life goes on after you die. That's a fact. And that's what I mean when I say I believe in the afterlife. If you want to create a better "afterlife" for yourself, you'd better set it up so that those you leave behind are as happy as they can be.

Oh? What? What? You wanted to live on after your own death and have some kind of happy existence for yourself? Nope. Sorry. That does not conform to reality. (Sorry.)

If you want to have a happy afterlife, you are going to have to ensure your survivors are happy. You ain't gonna be happy or sad after you're dead. You're gonna be dead. So if you want to have a happy afterlife, you gotta think of the living. You gotta know who will be alive after you die and ensure that they are happy.

There isn't popular version of afterlife where people are really happy, it always involves getting happiness from "kissings" some Sky Dude feet.

That’s a bit sad really, that the happiest afterlife a particular person could imagine involves having to suck up to someone forever.

I guess you literally can’t stop, either. What if you did? Would they kick you out?

(October 4, 2018 at 3:55 am)robvalue Wrote: That’s a bit sad really, that the happiest afterlife a particular person could imagine involves having to suck up to someone forever.

I guess you literally can’t stop, either. What if you did? Would they kick you out?

Fear. Sky Dude with a magical gun in the hand will motivate much better than fluffy afterlife with cuddling.

(October 4, 2018 at 12:12 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(October 3, 2018 at 12:50 pm)Rahn127 Wrote: Imagine an all you can eat buffet that also had some of the most magnificent desserts you've ever seen.

You eat and eat until you are perfectly full and then eat about half of a remarkable dessert. It's a meal you would brag about to family and friends.

It was wonderful because it was finite. It had value because it didn't last forever. You were able to enjoy it because the food itself has a finite shelf life. It won't be this tasty a month from now. You are able to bask in it's freshness.

Now imagine that instead of finishing your wonderful meal and walking away, you are now forced to continue eating. You can never leave the restaurant. You must stay for all eternity.

It's the finite nature of life that gives our lives such a wonderful experience. You should be thankful that it doesn't last forever.

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How can you possibly eat if you haven t got a body?
However you will be able to live in a state of total bliss according to me.
That is also food but food of a total different nature.
Food for the consciousness so to speak.
The same type of food that junkies try to get at any cost through a mental masturbation or chemical induced.
The natural way however is the way to go and I am sure that one day even atheists will agree with me.

Rik, consciousness requires a body too.
Bliss is a biochemical reaction that happens in the brain. We can chemically induce it.
All of that requires a body, a brain, chemicals, etc.

Think of unconsciousness.
How do you determine if you are unconscious or if you're dead ?

Answer: If you were unconscious, you wake up and someone tells you that you were unconscious.

Wrong, wrong and wrong all the way.
Consciousness DOES NOT NEED a body-brain to be active and this has already been proved by thousand of NDEs experiences.

(October 5, 2018 at 4:22 am)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong, wrong and wrong all the way.
Consciousness DOES NOT NEED a body-brain to be active and this has already been proved by thousand of NDEs experiences.

Rik, there are thousands of claims that on a particular date or very close rapture will come. And yet nothing happens. Same with NDE's. There are cases where people with NDE have been found out to lie to make money for good cause and of course preach.

(October 5, 2018 at 4:22 am)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong, wrong and wrong all the way.
Consciousness DOES NOT NEED a body-brain to be active and this has already been proved by thousand of NDEs experiences.

Define the word near.

(October 5, 2018 at 4:22 am)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong, wrong and wrong all the way.
Consciousness DOES NOT NEED a body-brain to be active and this has already been proved by thousand of NDEs experiences.

Near death is not relevant, show me a post death experience

I wish I could reply to all but I can not.
I am away from home and using my wife iPad which does not allow me to do much.
I can only answer to the last post and that is very frustrating.
Maybe is me that I do not know how to use it.
In any case I will only able to do normal post at the end of thismonth.
Thanks to all.

(October 5, 2018 at 4:22 am)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong, wrong and wrong all the way.
Consciousness DOES NOT NEED a body-brain to be active and this has already been proved by thousand of NDEs experiences.

You are the personification of gullible.