The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is raising its brutality to scary, unimaginable level. It's the first time in my life that I feel real impending danger for writing here. But the truth must be said at all time.

The Saudi journalist "Jamal Khashoggi " was killed inside the "Saudi embassy" in "Istanbul, Turkey".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-cons...beec5b2423

Quote:On Tuesday, one of Saudi Arabia’s best-known journalists went to pick up a form from the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul. Jamal Khashoggi, a former royal court insider who went on to become a prominent critic of the kingdom’s rulers, had left Saudi Arabia last year after signs that its leadership was growing increasingly intolerant of dissent.
His fiancee waited for four hours outside the consulate, but he never reemerged.
Now, The Washington Post is reporting that, according to people with knowledge of Turkey’s investigation into Khashoggi’s disappearance, a specially trained team of 15 from Saudi Arabia had traveled to Turkey to kill him in the consulate.

Jamal was probably (with 99.99999%) killed. Probably his body was hacked to pieces too before deposing it.

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Saudi Arabia / Turkey: Alleged assassination of Jamal Khashoggi in Consulate would set abysmal new low
5 October 2018, 14:13 UTC
Updated: 7 October 2018, 14:51 UTC
UPDATE: (7 October 2018)

Responding to reports alleging that Saudi Arabian journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed inside his country’s Consulate in Istanbul, Amnesty International’s Middle East Research Director Lynn Maalouf said:

“Reports that a team flew in from Saudi Arabia expressly to carry out a ‘planned murder’ in the Consulate are cause for extreme alarm after Jamal Khashoggi’s disappearance since entering the building on 2 October.

“If true, this would be an abysmal new low. Such an assassination within the grounds of the Consulate, which is territory under Saudi Arabian jurisdiction, would amount to an extrajudicial execution. This case sends a shockwave among Saudi Arabian human rights defenders and dissidents everywhere, eroding any notion of seeking safe haven abroad.
If true, this would be an abysmal new low. Such an assassination within the grounds of the Consulate would amount to an extrajudicial execution. This case sends a shockwave among Saudi Arabian human rights defenders and dissidents everywhere, eroding any notion of seeking safe haven abroad.

CNN Said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/06/europ...index.html

Quote:Istanbul (CNN)Unnamed Turkish officials speaking to The Washington Post and Reuters on Saturday said that prominent Saudi journalist-turned-critic Jamal Khashoggi was killed in the Saudi Arabian Consulate in Istanbul this week.
The officials have so far provided no evidence or detail on how they arrived at this conclusion.
CNN has not been able to independently confirm these reports and has not been able to get a comment from the Saudi government on the reports.
An unnamed consulate official dismissed the reports in an interview with Saudi Arabian state news agency SPA.
"The official strongly denounced these baseless allegations and expressed his doubt that they came from Turkish officials that are informed of the investigation or are authorized to comment on the issue," SPA reported.

This is horrifying. It means the Sauds under the command of MBS do brutalize their oposers not just inside the kingdom; but even outside. I should say that torture and murder are a normal act of the kingdom, but it was domestic. I testify that this horror is an everyday fact if you're inside the kingdom; the walls literally have ears and the government has a lot of money that can be given as paychecks to purchase loyalty.

But to the degree of exploiting the sovreigntey of other countries (like Canada and Turkey), and chase people inside it to hack them and give them the brutality they ran off from?

I hope I never get caught, but I'll never forgive myself if I didn't share the truth in times like these. I always despised the ancients who didn't do so; so why would I shut up?

I wonder what will be the reaction of the Turkish authorities. Even though the ambassy is technically a sovereign territory of Saudi Arabia, I don't know a single country who will not bat an eye at the idea that an ambassy could be used to commit high profile assassinations.

Thread title: "Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul"
Content of post and articles used to support his position: Journalist disappeared.
Conclusion of poster: He was 99,999999% murdered and hacked to pieces.

(October 8, 2018 at 1:44 am)epronovost Wrote: I wonder what will be the reaction of the Turkish authorities. Even though the ambassy is technically a sovereign territory of Saudi Arabia, I don't know a single country who will not bat an eye at the idea that an ambassy could be used to commit high profile assassinations.

The Turks spoke about it, Erdogan said that he personally is watching the investigation:

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/07/middl...index.html

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(October 8, 2018 at 1:47 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Thread title: "Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul"
Content of post and articles used to support his position: Journalist disappeared.
Conclusion of poster: He was 99,999999% murdered and hacked to pieces.

His murder:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...72326.html

His torture:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news...s-13377859

Quote:Missing journalist Jamal Khashoggi 'was tortured, killed and cut to pieces INSIDE Saudi consulate'

Never defend this regime.
I know it might be hard for some simple minded people, but please don't defend these cutthroats.

(October 8, 2018 at 1:59 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(October 8, 2018 at 1:47 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Thread title: "Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul"
Content of post and articles used to support his position: Journalist disappeared.
Conclusion of poster: He was 99,999999% murdered and hacked to pieces.

His murder:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...72326.html

From your own source from your first post:

Quote:Unnamed Turkish officials speaking to The Washington Post and Reuters on Saturday said that prominent Saudi journalist-turned-critic Jamal Khashoggi was killed in the Saudi Arabian Consulate in Istanbul this week.
The officials have so far provided no evidence or detail on how they arrived at this conclusion. CNN has not been able to independently confirm these reports

Quote:His torture:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news...s-13377859

From your link, line one.

Quote:A journalist was tortured, killed and cut to pieces INSIDE Saudi Arabia's consulate in Istanbul, it is alleged.

I am not saying it didnt happen, i am saying we dont have neither evidence nor credible witnesses, but you, you pretend its carved in stone already.
You are hysterical, but not that this would big news to anyone who is here even as short as me.

Saudi is far worse than Iran. Everything that the American public is fed about Iran applies to Saudi. I am sure that MBS will be paying for more newspaper space telling us how "modern" Saudi is now as a distraction.

(October 8, 2018 at 2:41 am):Deesse23 Wrote:

(October 8, 2018 at 1:59 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: His murder:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...72326.html

From your own source from your first post:

Quote:Unnamed Turkish officials speaking to The Washington Post and Reuters on Saturday said that prominent Saudi journalist-turned-critic Jamal Khashoggi was killed in the Saudi Arabian Consulate in Istanbul this week.
The officials have so far provided no evidence or detail on how they arrived at this conclusion. CNN has not been able to independently confirm these reports

Quote:His torture:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news...s-13377859

From your link, line one.

Quote:A journalist was tortured, killed and cut to pieces INSIDE Saudi Arabia's consulate in Istanbul, it is alleged.

I am not saying it didnt happen, i am saying we dont have neither evidence nor credible witnesses, but you, you pretend its carved in stone already.
You are hysterical, but not that this would big news to anyone who is here even as short as me.

You have the right not to support my view (and not preferring the alleged scenario carried out by the Turkish police):

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/10...-kingdoms/

Quote:Turkish police claimed on Saturday that a prominent Saudi Arabian journalist critical of Riyadh was murdered in its consulate in Istanbul.

Mystery has surrounded the fate of Jamal Khashoggi, who had spoken out against the ruling family and had a regular columnist for the Washington Post, since he disappeared four days ago during a visit to the Saudi diplomatic mission in Turkey.

I repeat that this brutality is a usual, everyday danger that any person inside Saudi Arabia is facing. So it's not strange when the same mentality works with the same methods abroad.

Saudi is better without the rule, wouldn't you agree?

http://news.trust.org//item/20181008101123-yrb6b/

Quote:12 minutes ago

Turkey asks permission to search Saudi consulate for missing journalist - NTV


ANKARA, Oct 8 (Reuters) - Turkey has asked for permission to search Saudi Arabia's consulate for prominent Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who went missing last week, broadcaster NTV said on Monday.
Turkish officials told Reuters over the weekend that they believed Khashoggi had been killed inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, and President Tayyip Erdogan said he was personally following the case.
On Monday, a Turkish official also said Saudi Arabia's envoy to Ankara had been summoned to the foreign ministry for a second time on Sunday and had been asked by Turkish diplomats to be "in full coordination" on the matter. (Reporting by Tuvan Gumrukcu, Ece Toksabay and Tulay Karadeniz)

Good, investigation is always good.

However the Saudis may claim the consulate is their territory and refuse any investigation by turkish police. Erdogan also is in the process of transforming Turkey into an autocracy. I dont know (yet) if and how far this has influenced the turkish police. How much of this story is true or how much is part of a political struggle between Turkey and the Emirates, we will see.

After all, just a few months ago Erdogan called the german government nazis, but now is begging for money to save him form the results of the devastating effects of his economic policy.