(October 19, 2018 at 4:26 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It is a code.  To see how the code functions see the "short" video in my signature.  

Again, it is that way because it was designed that way by the Creator.  That is why.  We live in a fallen world so the design was not intended to be perfect.  There are imperfections throughout the universe and living systems.

It is not a "code". It is nothing but chemistry and chemical bonds. It was not 'designed". It evolved. Your video is shit. 
Your lame attempt to excuse why it does not appear to be "perfect' is nothing but rationalization. 
A perfect being could NOT design anything imperfect. There is no evidence .... NOT ONE shred, that the design was at ANY point ever "perfect" .... BEFORE the "fall". 
Therefore your paradigm is false. There NEVER was perfection BEFORE the fall, and the universe ALWAYS operated THE SAME as it does now. 
You have no evidence of preternatural perfection. You have no evidence of a "fall", and your "code" is bullshit. You know NO chemistry. You are an ignorant fool.

Dinosaurs got cancer. Millions of years before any human walked the Earth, (therefore BEFORE any possible "fall" (LOL).....) the universe was "fallen".
So much for that crap.
https://www.nature.com/news/2003/031021/...020-2.html

(October 19, 2018 at 5:59 pm)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote:

(October 19, 2018 at 5:54 pm)Joods Wrote: Many of us wish he'd get banned from here too. This entire thread is stagnant and really, never was productive. It's been one giant never ending circle jerk.

Forget about that Joods… Would you kiss Cod under the influence of alcohol?

I'd have to think about that. 😸

(October 19, 2018 at 11:39 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(October 19, 2018 at 11:28 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Lot impregnated both of his daughters with your gods blessing and he wasn't repopulating anything.

He was drunk and taken advantage of.

You are morally bankrupt.

If you saw some guy about to rape a child, would you intervene to stop it, yes or no?

(October 19, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(October 19, 2018 at 4:26 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It is a code.  To see how the code functions see the "short" video in my signature.  

Again, it is that way because it was designed that way by the Creator.  That is why.  We live in a fallen world so the design was not intended to be perfect.  There are imperfections throughout the universe and living systems.

It is not a "code". It is nothing but chemistry and chemical bonds. It was not 'designed". It evolved. Your video is shit. 
Your lame attempt to excuse why it does not appear to be "perfect' is nothing but rationalization. 
A perfect being could NOT design anything imperfect. There is no evidence .... NOT ONE shred, that the design was at ANY point ever "perfect" .... BEFORE the "fall". 
Therefore your paradigm is false. There NEVER was perfection BEFORE the fall, and the universe ALWAYS operated THE SAME as it does now. 
You have no evidence of preternatural perfection. You have no evidence of a "fall", and your "code" is bullshit. You know NO chemistry. You are an ignorant fool.

Dinosaurs got cancer. Millions of years before any human walked the Earth, (therefore BEFORE any possible "fall" (LOL).....) the universe was "fallen".
So much for that crap.
https://www.nature.com/news/2003/031021/...020-2.html

OP may or may not be a troll. But he has distanced himself from fundamentalism enough that the argument about the literal date of "the Fall" does not apply here.

(October 19, 2018 at 5:03 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:Oh, there is an agenda alright.  Science is more political than you think.

Only in the minds of it's enemies

Yeah, there is some truth to that.

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(October 19, 2018 at 5:08 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Guess I'm done.  You're convinced of the supernatural because DNA is complex and complex stuff just does't make itself complex apparently.  I don't think you've won any agreement but you certainly have been busy fielding all the criticism we've all hurled your way.  So I guess it's a push; everyone will walk away unchanged.  Hope all that effort was worthwhile.

I hope so.

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(October 19, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(October 19, 2018 at 4:26 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It is a code.  To see how the code functions see the "short" video in my signature.  

Again, it is that way because it was designed that way by the Creator.  That is why.  We live in a fallen world so the design was not intended to be perfect.  There are imperfections throughout the universe and living systems.

It is not a "code". It is nothing but chemistry and chemical bonds. It was not 'designed". It evolved. Your video is shit. 
Your lame attempt to excuse why it does not appear to be "perfect' is nothing but rationalization. 
A perfect being could NOT design anything imperfect. There is no evidence .... NOT ONE shred, that the design was at ANY point ever "perfect" .... BEFORE the "fall". 
Therefore your paradigm is false. There NEVER was perfection BEFORE the fall, and the universe ALWAYS operated THE SAME as it does now. 
You have no evidence of preternatural perfection. You have no evidence of a "fall", and your "code" is bullshit. You know NO chemistry. You are an ignorant fool.

Dinosaurs got cancer. Millions of years before any human walked the Earth, (therefore BEFORE any possible "fall" (LOL).....) the universe was "fallen".
So much for that crap.
https://www.nature.com/news/2003/031021/...020-2.html

I believe animals died while man was in Eden still.

(October 19, 2018 at 9:21 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(October 19, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: It is not a "code". It is nothing but chemistry and chemical bonds. It was not 'designed". It evolved. Your video is shit. 
Your lame attempt to excuse why it does not appear to be "perfect' is nothing but rationalization. 
A perfect being could NOT design anything imperfect. There is no evidence .... NOT ONE shred, that the design was at ANY point ever "perfect" .... BEFORE the "fall". 
Therefore your paradigm is false. There NEVER was perfection BEFORE the fall, and the universe ALWAYS operated THE SAME as it does now. 
You have no evidence of preternatural perfection. You have no evidence of a "fall", and your "code" is bullshit. You know NO chemistry. You are an ignorant fool.

Dinosaurs got cancer. Millions of years before any human walked the Earth, (therefore BEFORE any possible "fall" (LOL).....) the universe was "fallen".
So much for that crap.
https://www.nature.com/news/2003/031021/...020-2.html

OP may or may not be a troll. But he has distanced himself from fundamentalism enough that the argument about the literal date of "the Fall" does not apply here.

Don't be stupid. If the universe is "fallen" then it actually "happened" at some point, and BEFORE that point, it was not fallen. There is no evidence at all of a non-fallen universe. HE used the concept ... doesn't matter when it happened. The use of the word "fallen" means there actually was a transition form something to another thing. The entire thing is bogus.

I will continue to bemoan time in lives with potential squandered humoring morons whose lives belong to and should have expired with an disgraceful past age.

(October 19, 2018 at 9:36 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(October 19, 2018 at 5:08 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Guess I'm done.  You're convinced of the supernatural because DNA is complex and complex stuff just does't make itself complex apparently.  I don't think you've won any agreement but you certainly have been busy fielding all the criticism we've all hurled your way.  So I guess it's a push; everyone will walk away unchanged.  Hope all that effort was worthwhile.

I hope so.

Complex=God??? C'mon, man. That's a non sequitur.

And wasted effort is wasted effort. Maybe you have a "God" that can recognize what your intentions are, but (even if that is true) God can see if your intentions are not truly oriented to glorifying him. Just sayin': if your intentions are just some misguided attempt to glorify yourself and your in-group, doncha think the omniscient God will pick up on that?

Quote:I believe animals died while man was in Eden still. 

There was no "Eden". Scholars know where the concept came from. It was a MYTH. 
What you believe is entirely irrelevant. 
You have no evidence for an "Eden". 
The jig is up. No one buys the crap you peddle.

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(October 19, 2018 at 9:49 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(October 19, 2018 at 9:36 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I hope so.

Complex=God??? C'mon, man. That's a non sequitur.

And wasted effort is wasted effort. Maybe you have a "God" that can recognize what your intentions are, but (even if that is true) God can see if your intentions are not truly oriented to glorifying him. Just sayin': if your intentions are just some misguided attempt to glorify yourself and your in-group, doncha think the omniscient God will pick up on that? Jus' sayin'.

He cannot define what he means by "complex". He also cannot provide any parameters for the term. He cannot say what is or is not "too complex" ... and requires a god, or what is simple enough to not require a god. It's all just undefined rubbish. Crapola ... with no specific boundaries or definitions. He does his hand-waving ... "too complex", but cannot say why.