(October 26, 2018 at 9:33 am)Drich Wrote: So if I ask what do all atheist commonly not believe in, according to you... God is not the answer?

There is nothing that all atheists commonly believe in. Common belief is not what defines atheists.

(October 26, 2018 at 10:41 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(October 26, 2018 at 9:33 am)Drich Wrote: So if I ask what do all atheist commonly not believe in, according to you... God is not the answer?

There is nothing that all atheists commonly believe in. Common belief is not what defines atheists.

So I can be an atheist and believe in God? is that what you are saying? Or is there a shared common belief that there is no God?

Check and mate, sport.

Drich:
So I can be an atheist and believe in God? is that what you are saying? Or is there a shared common belief that there is no God?


Check and mate, sport.

That's rich, coming from a pawn.

(October 24, 2018 at 9:05 am)Kit Wrote:

(October 24, 2018 at 8:55 am)wyzas Wrote: If they doubt/deny and are open about it they face consequences in most religious societies. It's easier to go along to get along. 

Yea Pascal.

I was involved in one of the strictest denominations: Pentecostal.  The pastor himself mentioned it was a healthy part of faith to have doubt.  The religious reasoning, I later learned, was merely a psychological trick.  Religious indoctrination, after all, is purely psychological.  Most people don't like to be told what to believe.  Inform them they can't have doubt, you'll end up losing followers.  Inform them that they can have doubt, while also informing keeping them abreast of other biblical nonsense, and you hook them.  In time, their doubt fades, however, because why should they doubt when it's perfectly okay to doubt?  The trick is in recognizing the doubt, but not fully supporting or feeding it, because then they would become atheists instead of devoted religious followers.

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That's an excellent articulation of how insidious and manipulative religion can be. The religions and gods with the most followers are simply the ones that have finely honed their manipulative skills.

-Teresa

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(October 24, 2018 at 10:32 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Huge list of suicide victims contains a lot of non believers, because most of theists have hell idea. So, there are perks for being a believer.

Explain suicide bombers.

-Teresa

(October 26, 2018 at 11:44 am)Drich Wrote:

(October 26, 2018 at 10:41 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: There is nothing that all atheists commonly believe in. Common belief is not what defines atheists.

So I can be an atheist and believe in God? is that what you are saying? Or is there a shared common belief that there is no God?

Check and mate, sport.

There is nothing that all atheists commonly believe in. There's one thing all atheists commonly DON'T believe in. I don't think chess is your game, sport.

(October 29, 2018 at 8:52 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(October 26, 2018 at 11:44 am)Drich Wrote: So I can be an atheist and believe in God? is that what you are saying? Or is there a shared common belief that there is no God?

Check and mate, sport.

There is nothing that all atheists commonly believe in. There's one thing all atheists commonly DON'T believe in. I don't think chess is your game, sport.

so you all believe there is no God? 

if you see a difference then please explain a little better than an fallical appeal to semantics..

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(October 26, 2018 at 11:48 am)no one Wrote: Drich:
So I can be an atheist and believe in God? is that what you are saying? Or is there a shared common belief that there is no God?


Check and mate, sport.

That's rich, coming from a pawn.

a pawn on the winning side still wins.

Quote:Pastor is a badass.

Pastor is a dumbass.

(October 29, 2018 at 11:01 am)Drich Wrote: So you all believe there is no God? 

 Hello!

Um, no. I don't believe there is no diety. I also do not believe there is a deity (Or any dieties, plural)

I am open to the ideas of dieties. I just see nothing to indicate thet thre are any such things as have currently been defined as deities.

Also, most of the properties that ave been put forward do not match with what I currently understand of the reality around me.

Cheers.

Not at work.

Pizza is the answer!

(October 29, 2018 at 11:01 am)Drich Wrote:

(October 29, 2018 at 8:52 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: There is nothing that all atheists commonly believe in. There's one thing all atheists commonly DON'T believe in. I don't think chess is your game, sport.

so you all believe there is no God? 

if you see a difference then please explain a little better than an fallical appeal to semantics.

I try to never make fallical appeals. Does your spellcheck not work at all? That's not even a word.

When talking about the meaning of a phrase, semantics is what is actually under discussion, the meaning of what's being said. Atheism encompasses both those who believe there is no God and those who merely lack belief that there is a God. It's a matter of degree of certainty, and it ranges from 'I wouldn't be surprised if there is a real god or God but since as far as I know there isn't, I don't believe' to 'I think a god or God is very unlikely but possible', to 'all gods are made up, there aren't enough decimal points to express how unlikely a god is' to 'no way is there anything that fits the 'god' or 'God' description, there absolutely is no God'.