(November 3, 2018 at 11:15 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(November 3, 2018 at 10:59 am)Minimalist Wrote: I don't give a flying fuck one way or the other about the fairy tales that religitards invent to scare themselves.  They rant and rave about their gods and their hells and they have no evidence for either.

Time for all of them to grow up.  But, if they do find evidence I will consider what they present.

*  Bibles, Korans, etc are claims, not evidence.

Sure, sure.........time for all of them to grow up.........and also time to grow up for people who believe that the universe pop up as per magic.  

You are an absolute joke son.  

Go blow your god out your ass, moron.

(November 3, 2018 at 3:45 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: With minimal casualties.

Off day?

The first two verses* of the Bible, written some 3 millenniums ago has been remarkably proven scientifically right in the last 100 years in two regards: The Universe had a beginning and the ancient Earth was covered with water** which gives powerful validity that it is divinely inspired. Heaven and Hell are eschatological in nature and would only be revealed by a divinely inspired document.
*1. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 2. Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.
**https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126882-600-ancient-earth-was-a-barren-waterworld/

Quote:1. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

 
How is this scientifically accurate?  'The universe had a beginning' in no wise equates to this verse.  The universe could be self-created, or it could simply be the current phase of an infinitely oscillating cosmos.

Quote:2. Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.

EVERY clause here fails.
1.  The Earth was never 'formless' and the term 'void' indicates non-existence.
2.  'over the surface of the deep' doesn't indicate that the entire surface of the planet was covered with water.
3.  There is no scientific evidence for 'the Spirit of God'.
4. As in #2, 'hovering over the surface' doesn't indicate a water-covered Earth.
You might be an idiot.  Please get yourself checked out.
Boru

(November 3, 2018 at 7:22 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:

(November 3, 2018 at 3:45 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: With minimal casualties.

Off day?

Limited number of potential victims.

(November 3, 2018 at 11:41 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 3, 2018 at 11:32 am)Little Rik Wrote: Ohpppssss..........you forgot to add..........especially with Christians and Muslim which are so sure that hell exist.....


Double wrong as usual.

 You're a fucking moron.

The word especially modifies your initial request but does not negate it.  You asked for a discussion of whether hell exists or does not exist, adding that you would find the arguments of those who think it exists more valuable than that of those who think it does not exist.  So, no, you're still wrong as usual.  Additionally, a discussion about whether hell exists would be rather lame if it excluded views against its existence.  And finally, attempting to limit thread participation is a violation of the rules of this forum.  So you're triply wrong.

What a load of tripe and baloney yog.  

When I ever said that certain people should be excluded from posting?
Atheists do not believe in hell so eventually they may bring forward arguments against the existence of hell but in no way I said that they should be out.
People here know quite well that I do not believe in hell.
It make sense therefore that those who I am looking for a discussion would be those who believe in hell rather that those who negate hell such as atheists.
A discussion with people who agree with me wouldn't make much sense in that respect however atheists arguments directed to believers of hell would make good sense.

Shame yog shame for your usual stupidity.  

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(November 3, 2018 at 4:08 pm)chimp3 Wrote:

(November 3, 2018 at 10:28 am)Little Rik Wrote: Here I would like to start a discussion whether hell exist or not especially with Christians and Muslim which are so sure that hell exist.
Of course anybody who would like to intervene in the thread is welcome.
MK however would be the special guest.  

@LR: How much hell does a child rape/ murder victim have to suffer before the books are balanced? Hmmm, LR? Did you ever think of that?

You keep on not answering my question that I put to you at least two years ago.
Let me remind you once again chimp.  

Suppose a rapist rape and kill your only little lovely daughter.  
Suppose again that the rapist born again.
However the rapist born as a little cute girl and this girl is raped and killed.

What would you think?

Would you think that that is not possible?
Would you think that this little cute girl should not undergo that terrible end?

Once you come up with something that make any sense I am more than eager to continue the discussion with you.  

(November 3, 2018 at 3:40 pm)wyzas Wrote: If you've spent anytime on a psych ward I think you'd admit that hell does exist for some people.

I think I need to clarify that I was only rotating thru.

(November 4, 2018 at 5:34 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(November 3, 2018 at 11:41 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:  You're a fucking moron.

The word especially modifies your initial request but does not negate it.  You asked for a discussion of whether hell exists or does not exist, adding that you would find the arguments of those who think it exists more valuable than that of those who think it does not exist.  So, no, you're still wrong as usual.  Additionally, a discussion about whether hell exists would be rather lame if it excluded views against its existence.  And finally, attempting to limit thread participation is a violation of the rules of this forum.  So you're triply wrong.

What a load of tripe and baloney yog.  

When I ever said that certain people should be excluded from posting?
Atheists do not believe in hell so eventually they may bring forward arguments against the existence of hell but in no way I said that they should be out.
People here know quite well that I do not believe in hell.
It make sense therefore that those who I am looking for a discussion would be those who believe in hell rather that those who negate hell such as atheists.
A discussion with people who agree with me wouldn't make much sense in that respect however atheists arguments directed to believers of hell would make good sense.

Shame yog shame for your usual stupidity.  

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(November 3, 2018 at 4:08 pm)chimp3 Wrote: @LR: How much hell does a child rape/ murder victim have to suffer before the books are balanced? Hmmm, LR? Did you ever think of that?

You keep on not answering my question that I put to you at least two years ago.
Let me remind you once again chimp.  

Suppose a rapist rape and kill your only little lovely daughter.  
Suppose again that the rapist born again.
However the rapist born as a little cute girl and this girl is raped and killed.

What would you think?

Would you think that that is not possible?
Would you think that this little cute girl should not undergo that terrible end?

Once you come up with something that make any sense I am more than eager to continue the discussion with you.  

You never disappoint LR!

(November 3, 2018 at 7:59 pm)snowtracks Wrote: The first two verses* of the Bible, written some 3 millenniums ago has been remarkably proven scientifically right in the last 100 years in two regards: The Universe had a beginning and the ancient Earth was covered with water** which gives powerful validity that it is divinely inspired. Heaven and Hell are eschatological in nature and would only be revealed by a divinely inspired document.
*1. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 2. Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.
**https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126882-600-ancient-earth-was-a-barren-waterworld/

Hit and run poster. UM FYI there is a ban on posting links until after your 30th post to insure you are not a troll. 

FYI moron, the planet in it's 4 billion year old history has been a fireball, and an iceball. What did not happen and is physically impossible is 40 days of rain worldwide as the bible would imply.

(November 4, 2018 at 9:05 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(November 3, 2018 at 7:59 pm)snowtracks Wrote: The first two verses* of the Bible, written some 3 millenniums ago has been remarkably proven scientifically right in the last 100 years in two regards: The Universe had a beginning and the ancient Earth was covered with water** which gives powerful validity that it is divinely inspired. Heaven and Hell are eschatological in nature and would only be revealed by a divinely inspired document.
*1. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 2. Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.
**https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126882-600-ancient-earth-was-a-barren-waterworld/

Hit and run poster. UM FYI there is a ban on posting links until after your 30th post to insure you are not a troll. 

Snowtracks is a regular with 5 years and over 800 posts under his belt.

We know the history of the concept. 
That's all anyone needs to know. 
Humans invented it. There is no evidence for it. The notion requires time, (in a timeless environment). 
The time demanded for consideration of such incoherent nonsense is about 2 - 4 seconds. 

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