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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 12, 2018 at 1:34 pm
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(November 12, 2018 at 12:42 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 12, 2018 at 12:38 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: If you can't do it, then it's not a choice. End of story.
So what you are both saying is that you could not make the choice to believe in God even if you wanted to. I have no idea why I would want to..but..yes, that's exactly what I'm telling you. I don't choose the contents of my beliefs anymore than you do - despite your ridiculous assertion to the contrary.
Quote:If so, what makes you so convinced that this entire universe and all conscious life could just come to be from nothing, out of thin air?
Maybe you should have began by asking -if- I believed that, instead of why? Mostly...since I don't believe that anymore than I believe in your silly meat fairy.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 12, 2018 at 1:35 pm
(November 12, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Everena Wrote: You atheists are the only ones who believe the entire universe just poofed in existence. We realize that higher intelligence was involved and was an absolute necessity for all of this to come to be as it has. God always has been and always will be. Infinite and eternal, just like our true selves.
You're being dishonest.
Theists believe that a higher being just poofed into existence in order to create everything. Let that sink in.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 12, 2018 at 1:38 pm
(November 12, 2018 at 9:44 am)CDF47 Wrote: (November 12, 2018 at 8:34 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: That is just a part of what Everena is promoting.
Would you like to know more?
Sure.
How about karma and reincarnation. You all good with that?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 12, 2018 at 1:40 pm
(November 12, 2018 at 12:58 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (November 12, 2018 at 12:53 pm)Everena Wrote: Whipped up? Not even close. God is higher intelligence and higher intelligence is required in order for this entire universe to come to be.
"Whip up" .. "create", what verb do you prefer to refer to the linkage by which all that higher intelligence produced all the life we see?
I don't believe that higher intelligence created life. I believe higher intelligence created this planet (yes using chemicals that already existed) and our flesh, but all conscious life is eternal and we are just inhabiting these fleshly bodies.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 12, 2018 at 1:40 pm
(November 12, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 12, 2018 at 12:48 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I've said it in this thread before. It's just amazing that everything just has to have a creator EXCEPT, conveniently, your imaginary friend.
And something from nothing is a religious concept, not necessarily a scientific one. Your god and poofing the universe into existence are prime examples.
You atheists are the only ones who believe the entire universe just poofed in existence. We realize that higher intelligence was involved and was an absolute necessity for all of this to come to be as it has. God always has been and always will be. Infinite and eternal, just like our true selves.
Why are you telling me what I believe?
Don't try to speak for me. You're not qualified.
Now go and read what Kit just wrote.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 12, 2018 at 1:41 pm
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God-as-skin tailor, lol..precious.
IDK about you Ev, but my mommy and daddy made my meat suit. : shrugs :
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 12, 2018 at 1:41 pm
(November 12, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Everena Wrote: You atheists are the only ones who believe the entire universe just poofed in existence.
I do not know a single atheist that believes that.
Quote:We realize that higher intelligence was involved and was an absolute necessity for all of this to come to be as it has. God always has been and always will be. Infinite and eternal,
So a higher intelligence was needed to create the universe but that higher intelligence could just exist without needing an even higher intelligence to create it. Special pleading much?
Quote:just like our true selves.
Please provide any shred of demonstrable, testable evidence that confirms that anything about us survives the physical death of the brain. I'll wait.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 12, 2018 at 1:42 pm
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(November 12, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 12, 2018 at 12:48 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I've said it in this thread before. It's just amazing that everything just has to have a creator EXCEPT, conveniently, your imaginary friend.
And something from nothing is a religious concept, not necessarily a scientific one. Your god and poofing the universe into existence are prime examples.
You atheists are the only ones who believe the entire universe just poofed in existence. We realize that higher intelligence was involved and was an absolute necessity for all of this to come to be as it has. God always has been and always will be. Infinite and eternal, just like our true selves.
That’s because we atheists are the only ones who takes scientific method and discovery resulting from it seriously as basis to form a world view. We don’t pretend we just know better than what vastly and repeatedly proven methods of fact finding tells us.
And much of the rest of you are complacent and conceited enough to actually think it is a credit to remain at the intellectual level already surpassed by your betters centuries ago.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 12, 2018 at 1:42 pm
(November 12, 2018 at 1:41 pm)Khemikal Wrote: God-as-skin tailor, lol..precious.
It puts the lotion in the basket or else it gets the hose again.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 12, 2018 at 1:43 pm
(November 12, 2018 at 1:42 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: It puts the lotion in the basket or else it gets the hose again.
*throws the lotion far away from the basket*
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