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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 9:37 pm
(November 15, 2018 at 9:36 pm)no one Wrote: There wasn't any fall. If your lord is a know it all, as you claim, It knew it would happen from moment one. There is no getting around that. Your lord is just a plain douche!
No, there are times where He chooses to step back and see what happens. For instance, He let Adam name the animals.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 9:38 pm
It knew what Adam would name them. What part of it knows all there is to know don't you get?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 9:42 pm
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Quote:No, the Creator exists on a throne outside this universe. He is also in this universe and knows all there is to know.
LMAO.
So there are "thrones" "outside" this universe. What a stupid thing to say. I suppose he has his little doggie sitting by the throne.
You have no evidence that space-time exists anywhere other than INSIDE this universe.
IF you were really a engineer, you would know, that "outside" is a spatial reference, and is meaningless with respect to an environment without proven space-time.
There is not one shred of evidence there is any god. What we observe, (shootings in churches, fires that kill innocent babies) is EXACTLY what one would expect to see, if there were no gods.
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No, there are times where He chooses to step back and see what happens. For instance, He let Adam name the animals.
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LOL. Your god is SO stupid, it doesn't even know what to make for a wife for Adam.
"Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals. But for Adam no suitable helper was found"
So they were looking, (ie wife try-outs) ... kinky.
BTW, your god is supposed to be omniscient. Dumbass. He already KNOWS what's going to happen. No need to step back. He KNEW Adam would fall. He's an evil god. Even KNOWING the fall was coming, he chose to allow it, and all the suffering that ensued. Your cult is SO stupid.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 9:49 pm
(November 15, 2018 at 9:42 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Quote:No, the Creator exists on a throne outside this universe. He is also in this universe and knows all there is to know.
LMAO.
So there are "thrones" "outside" this universe. What a stupid thing to say. I suppose he has his little doggie sitting by the throne.
You have no evidence that space-time exists anywhere other than INSIDE this universe.
IF you were really a engineer, you would know, that "outside" is a spatial reference, and is meaningless with respect to an environment without proven space-time.
There is not one shred of evidence there is any god. What we observe, (shootings in churches, fires that kill innocent babies) is EXACTLY what one would expect to see, if there were no gods.
This is punishment for the fall and is temporary. The Lord's kingdom is an everlasting kingdom to come.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 9:52 pm
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Quote:This is punishment for the fall and is temporary. The Lord's kingdom is an everlasting kingdom to come.
Sure it is ... sure it is.
LOL
Why would your god punish those not responsible for the fall ?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 9:52 pm
(November 15, 2018 at 9:37 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (November 15, 2018 at 9:36 pm)no one Wrote: There wasn't any fall. If your lord is a know it all, as you claim, It knew it would happen from moment one. There is no getting around that. Your lord is just a plain douche!
No, there are times where He chooses to step back and see what happens. For instance, He let Adam name the animals.
Impossible if it's all knowing.
If it's not all knowing, it's not all powerful.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 9:52 pm
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2018 at 9:54 pm by CDF47.)
(November 15, 2018 at 9:42 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Quote:No, the Creator exists on a throne outside this universe. He is also in this universe and knows all there is to know.
LMAO.
So there are "thrones" "outside" this universe. What a stupid thing to say. I suppose he has his little doggie sitting by the throne.
You have no evidence that space-time exists anywhere other than INSIDE this universe.
IF you were really a engineer, you would know, that "outside" is a spatial reference, and is meaningless with respect to an environment without proven space-time.
There is not one shred of evidence there is any god. What we observe, (shootings in churches, fires that kill innocent babies) is EXACTLY what one would expect to see, if there were no gods.
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No, there are times where He chooses to step back and see what happens. For instance, He let Adam name the animals.
LOL. Your god is SO stupid, it doesn't even know what to make for a wife for Adam.
"Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals. But for Adam no suitable helper was found"
So they were looking, (ie wife try-outs) ... kinky.
BTW, your god is supposed to be omniscient. Dumbass. He already KNOWS what's going to happen. No need to step back. He KNEW Adam would fall. He's an evil god. Even KNOWING the fall was coming, he chose to allow it, and all the suffering that ensued. Your cult is SO stupid.
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Evil is being allowed to run its course for some time.
(November 15, 2018 at 9:52 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (November 15, 2018 at 9:37 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, there are times where He chooses to step back and see what happens. For instance, He let Adam name the animals.
Impossible if it's all knowing.
If it's not all knowing, it's not all powerful.
He is both.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 9:55 pm
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2018 at 9:56 pm by Bucky Ball.)
You EVADED the questions posed to you.
You made a statement that made it look like your god didn't know the future.
EXPLAIN yourself, or GTF out.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 9:58 pm
It can't be both! Not sure you understand what all knowing is.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 10:06 pm
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Quote:No, there are times where He chooses to step back and see what happens. For instance, He let Adam name the animals.
If he's "making choices", then before the choice, he doesn't know what he's going to do, and is not omniscient.
"Making choices" is a linear, temporal concept. It appears your deity's environment REQUIRES time.
If it exists in a temporal environment, and requires it, who created what this deity needs, by definition.
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