(November 16, 2018 at 3:53 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: It did not magically pop into existence with all that we have here, itself. "Things" without intelligence do not do that. It never has happened, never will happen.

No one is telling you that "it" did...so...for the umpteenth time, this is a pointless objection.  Go find someone who thinks that, and argue that with them?  Why are you wasting your time litigating this with us?

Meanwhile, the comment that you responded to..with the above..had nothing to do with the above, and remains true regardless of whether "it" all magically popped into existence.  

The entire universe..and everything in it, is only evidence of the universe and everything in it.  If you would like to add an entity to that list, you will need evidence for that entity, not evidence for the universe.  

Quote:Everena: I have been studying consciousness for over 20 years. I already explained what science has been able to do so far. They can see the parts of the brain we are experiencing consciousness in and that is all so far. That does explain how or why we have consciousness. (Ditto that for emotions) See for yourself. Neuroscientists are pondering and trying to prove different possible theories right now.  https://neurosciencenews.com/consciousness-theory-9059/

More pointless lies and still pointless.  You made the claim that science does not know how or why we are conscious.  That isn;t entirely true..and if it were..it would still only be an argument from ignorance.  

Quote:Everena: Anyone who stated otherwise is WRONG. Ask any real scientist.

There's no need...we already have citations from real scientists™ in the thread..which you could address at any point, if you so chose.  You have decided, instead, to memory hole that.  

Quote:Everena: Why? Because it completely proves you are wrong?

More because it was almost unbelievably ignorant.  If I hadn't heard dumber things on these boards for years I would never have believed that a person could say such a thing and be doing anything -other- than fucking around as a POE.  

Quote:Everena: Then you believe in God.

You're really struggling to get anything right today, huh?  I know that our having food isn't a matter of chance or luck - but since I'm an atheist, and gods have nothing to do with our food...you shit the bed pretty hard here.  

Quote:Everena: No, I am not. You need to look up strawman argument. No information has been provided to me and there is no explanation why food would taste delicious and provide us with energy and nutrients. And yes food has always been on this planet. And what they make new foods from has always been on this planet. And the other 7.8 million species of conscious life on this planet are just eating what here for them to eat, so you have no argument.

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You can directly address any of the many pages worth of evidence you have received, at this point.  Otherwise, this is just a temper tantrum.  There, there.

Quote:Everena: George Gallup, the most famous statistician who ever lived, said God can be proven statistically see quote https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/george_gallup_113367

Lets see the math.  You're going to have to show your work.  

Quote:Everena: Actually your answer was a strawman. Avoiding the question.

Temper tantrum.

Quote:Everena: Exactly.

Yes, ev, exactly..we agree?  Nothingness doesn't give a shit about us.  And?  

Quote:Everena: You are evidence and you are surrounded by nothing but evidence.

You're going to need to provide evidence of the entity you'd like to add, not evidence of me.  I'm already aware of my own existence, thx, lol?  

You have been given every peice of evidence you;ve asked for in this thread.  Will you be returning that courtesy by providing any evidence whatsoever for your repeated assertions, or not?

(November 16, 2018 at 4:00 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: But how do you explain the arguments against evolution put forward byvwell known creationists who have no qualufications in biology and are, in fact dentists?

Huh?

And what about the banana?  It's curved and just the right size for Ray Comfort to shove up his arse, proving that gid is a fruit and loves fucking Ray Comfort!

Check mate, atheists!!

I love the banana in the hand and the check mate atheists . It makes a much bigger point........

(November 16, 2018 at 4:05 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 16, 2018 at 3:40 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Nope.
No one finding could do that, and (again) the fact you even say that, demonstrates you actually know nothing about the MOUNTAINS of intersecting, supporting evidence that supports and IS WORKING NOW in the field to find cures for diseases.
There is NOT ONE geneticist that would agree with your rubbish.

BTW, sweetie, when you *do* your unsupported ASSertion thing, like you do, you need to provide a possible concrete example of how that would work, IN DETAIL.
Good luck with that, you incompetent liar.
Blowing smoke out your ass is not good enough.

Explain how one species turning into an entirely different species is helping find cures for diseases? Genetics is a relatively new field, and they are discovering new things all the time. They were using genetics long before 2013 and yet they discovered an entirely new code with a second language that controls our genes, written on top of the other code.  https://www.washington.edu/news/2013/12/...etic-code/

Why don’t you go back to a real college and take a serious program in biology?  Or has your education been a joke and you can’t get into one? Or your education has been a joke and real education would threaten your comfortable idiot certitude too much? Or you just know you are too stupid to ever benefit from real knowledge that contradict your certainties?

(November 16, 2018 at 4:09 pm)Everena Wrote: I love the banana in the hand and the check mate atheists . It makes a much bigger point........

Trollololol

(November 16, 2018 at 4:09 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 16, 2018 at 4:00 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: But how do you explain the arguments against evolution put forward byvwell known creationists who have no qualufications in biology and are, in fact dentists?

Huh?

And what about the banana?  It's curved and just the right size for Ray Comfort to shove up his arse, proving that gid is a fruit and loves fucking Ray Comfort!

Check mate, atheists!!

I love the banana in the hand and the check mate atheists . It makes a much bigger point........

Yeah, that Ray Comfort's a complete fucking idiot.

(November 16, 2018 at 4:09 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 16, 2018 at 4:00 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: But how do you explain the arguments against evolution put forward byvwell known creationists who have no qualufications in biology and are, in fact dentists?

Huh?

And what about the banana?  It's curved and just the right size for Ray Comfort to shove up his arse, proving that gid is a fruit and loves fucking Ray Comfort!

Check mate, atheists!!

I love the banana in the hand and the check mate atheists . It makes a much bigger point........

That creationists are morons?

(November 16, 2018 at 2:38 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(November 16, 2018 at 2:35 pm)Everena Wrote: I got A's but I was not brainwashed by it. I accept science that is observable and demonstratable.

Like evolution.

And you shouldn't use words like "demonstrable" as it contains the word "demon" and that's a good way to get the attention of one.

So an individual online told me once.  I laughed at him, too.

Everena: Evolution is not observable or demonstratable. They have some fairly good reasons for thinking so and that is all. I do not believe in demons, but I do understand why it helps Christians to be able to shift the blame ( the devil made me do it-- YEAH SURE..lol)

(November 16, 2018 at 4:15 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: Evolution is not observable or demonstratable. They have some fairly good reasons for thinking so and that is all. I do not believe in demons, but I do understand why it helps Christians to be able to shift the blame ( the devil made me do it-- YEAH SURE..lol)

(November 16, 2018 at 4:13 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(November 16, 2018 at 4:09 pm)Everena Wrote: I love the banana in the hand and the check mate atheists . It makes a much bigger point........

That creationists are morons?

The point was made by a famous atheist. And it is a great one...

(November 16, 2018 at 4:17 pm)Everena Wrote: The point was made by a famous atheist. And it is a great one...