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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 11:19 am
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(November 17, 2018 at 11:04 am)Everena Wrote: (November 17, 2018 at 10:35 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: I really am. And precisely because I am so much smarter than you are and so much better than you at hitting the truth (not in anyway is that even an remotely exceptional attainment by the way), it is rather conceited and overreaching for the likes of you to attempt to call my shots. Wouldn’t you say?
Still waiting to find out what you are claiming that I don't understand. And you are definitely not smarter than anyone.
Oh, I am definitely smarter than you by far. Whether I am smarter than any other particular individual besides you, that’s much harder to say.
The result is if you apply the method of fact finding that has proven repeatedly to work to the question, then such entity as you might envision as god is overwhelmingly unlikely to have existed.
(November 17, 2018 at 11:16 am)Everena Wrote: (November 17, 2018 at 11:05 am)Mathilda Wrote: Wrong. Not only do you not understand evolution but you do not understand how science works.
Our understanding has become more refined over time. For example we now know that there is both good and bad cholesterol. We know that there are different types of fats. Some we need (Omega 3 and omega 6). Some we should minimise (saturated fats). And some we need but get too much of in the western diet (e.g. Omega 6).
Scientists don't talk with one voice as a collective. Science is self correcting and that requires dissenting voices. Eventually this leads to refined theories that can't be dissented against because there is too much evidence for it, such as with the theory of evolution.
Are you claiming they weren't telling everyone to lower their overall cholesterol in the 80s and 90s? And this was all over the world for decades due to science being absolutely sure it was fact. What we know now, is NOT what we knew then. The scientist who published the first huge world wide study purposely left out huge amounts of information to prove his hypothesis. The other scientists took his word for it and just made a quick buck by saying they had the same results. And people's lives were at stake. And guess how much they cared? You can read about this on the web. And you think I should just blindly trust the "experts"? Well I don't and you shouldn't either but it's your life.
Well, you blindly trust experts. The only problem is the expert you trust, namely you, is dilutional.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 11:23 am
(November 17, 2018 at 11:16 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Are you capable of anything other than the manufacture of straw and professions of blind ignorance? You don't seem like a particularly intelligent design..is why I ask.
I will take that as a compliment, coming from you.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 11:23 am
(November 17, 2018 at 11:16 am)Everena Wrote: (November 17, 2018 at 11:05 am)Mathilda Wrote: Wrong. Not only do you not understand evolution but you do not understand how science works.
Our understanding has become more refined over time. For example we now know that there is both good and bad cholesterol. We know that there are different types of fats. Some we need (Omega 3 and omega 6). Some we should minimise (saturated fats). And some we need but get too much of in the western diet (e.g. Omega 6).
Scientists don't talk with one voice as a collective. Science is self correcting and that requires dissenting voices. Eventually this leads to refined theories that can't be dissented against because there is too much evidence for it, such as with the theory of evolution.
Are you claiming they weren't telling everyone to lower their overall cholesterol in the 80s and 90s? And this was all over the world for decades due to science being absolutely sure it was fact. What we know now, is NOT what we knew then. The scientist who published the first huge world wide study purposely left out huge amounts of information to prove his hypothesis. The other scientists took his word for it and just made a quick buck by saying they had the same results. And people's lives were at stake. And guess how much they cared? You can read about this on the web. And you think I should just blindly trust the "experts"? Well I don't and you shouldn't either but it's your life.
The problem with this is as follows. In as much as your comments reflect skepticism and agnosticism regarding the truth, you are fine. Insofar as you are making claims that can be supported, defeated, rendered meaningless, or otherwise mooted, your arguments are subject to the same criticisms that one can level against any hypothesis, and specifically scientific hypotheses. Insofar as you seem to my eye to apply differing standards to the two, you are guilty of special pleading, and your conclusions on that account are therefore not reliable nor necessarily true.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 11:27 am
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(November 17, 2018 at 11:19 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: (November 17, 2018 at 11:04 am)Everena Wrote: Still waiting to find out what you are claiming that I don't understand. And you are definitely not smarter than anyone.
Oh, I am definitely smarter than you by far. Whether I am smarter than any other particular individual besides you, that’s much harder to say.
The result is if you apply the method of fact finding that has proven repeatedly to work to the question, then such entity as you might envision as god is overwhelmingly unlikely to have existed.
(November 17, 2018 at 11:16 am)Everena Wrote: Are you claiming they weren't telling everyone to lower their overall cholesterol in the 80s and 90s? And this was all over the world for decades due to science being absolutely sure it was fact. What we know now, is NOT what we knew then. The scientist who published the first huge world wide study purposely left out huge amounts of information to prove his hypothesis. The other scientists took his word for it and just made a quick buck by saying they had the same results. And people's lives were at stake. And guess how much they cared? You can read about this on the web. And you think I should just blindly trust the "experts"? Well I don't and you shouldn't either but it's your life.
Well, you blindly trust experts. The only problem is the expert you trust, namely you, is dilutional.
You mean delusional? Well, I'm not and all life is made up of is our experiences. If you don't trust yourself and your own experiences and you would rather have some moron tell you what you experienced, go right ahead. I do trust myself. And God is the only logical conclusion anyone can make in addition to me trusting myself and my own experiences. Also, it is very unlikely that 93% of the world is delusional.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 11:29 am
(November 17, 2018 at 11:27 am)Everena Wrote: You mean delusional? Well, I'm not...
As someone who has been delusional I have to ask the rather obvious question. If you were delusional, then how would you know?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 11:29 am
Everena, you think God will make us in to his eternal pawns?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 11:30 am
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(November 17, 2018 at 11:27 am)Everena Wrote: You mean delusional? Well, I'm not and all life is made up of is our experiences. If you don't trust yourself and your own experiences and you would rather have some moron tell you what you experienced, go right ahead. I do trust myself. Obviously how you found yourself in such a hilarious position to begin with.
Quote:And God is the only logical conclusion anyone can make in addition to me trusting myself and my own experiences.
False, prima facie.
Quote:Also, it is very unlikely that 93% of the world is delusional.
93% of the world doesn't claim to have had your experience. Yet another example of your bottomless penchant for dishonesty and fallacious argumentation.
Maybe it's just you? Maybe you're the only delusional believer? The rest aren't..and atheists are wrong..but so are you. Womp womp.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 11:32 am
(November 17, 2018 at 11:29 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (November 17, 2018 at 11:27 am)Everena Wrote: You mean delusional? Well, I'm not...
As someone who has been delusional I have to ask the rather obvious question. If you were delusional, then how would you know?
By checking your beliefs against measurements and benchmarks that are hopefully not part of the delusion?
If your delusions are all encompassing, then you are just boned.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 11:34 am
Still waiting to find out what you are claiming that I don't understand. And you are definitely not smarter than anyone.
(November 17, 2018 at 11:19 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Oh, I am definitely smarter than you by far. Whether I am smarter than any other particular individual besides you, that’s much harder to say.
The result is if you apply the method of fact finding that has proven repeatedly to work to the question, then such entity as you might envision as god is overwhelmingly unlikely to have existed.
You are not smarter than anyone, that is your own delusion, and you still haven't backed up your claim about me with anything. God is the ONLY logical assumption anyone can make. God is 100% likely to exist. You just don't want to believe in God, but God exists regardless of what you or any other atheist wants.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 11:38 am
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(November 17, 2018 at 11:27 am)Everena Wrote: You mean delusional? Well, I'm not and all life is made up of is our experiences. If you don't trust yourself and your own experiences and you would rather have some moron tell you what you experienced, go right ahead. I do trust myself.
What did you do to verify your own trustworthiness, other than, let me guess, by indulging in your delusions of adaquacy?
(November 17, 2018 at 11:27 am)Everena Wrote: And God is the only logical conclusion anyone can make in addition to me trusting myself and my own experiences. Also, it is very unlikely that 93% of the world is delusional.
There you go again, pretending you can call the shots of your betters again.
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