(November 21, 2018 at 12:18 am)Everena Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 12:13 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Got some more moronic and logically invalid arguments for me to laugh at?

No, stay an atheist. Believe this whole universe just magically appeared one day for no reason from an inanimate object. That's the kind of logic that suits you well. And an elementary school teacher could explain what was wrong with Krauss's stupid argument.

That's interesting, because so far you haven't bothered to explain what's wrong with Krauss' scientific argument, and freely admit you aren't even familiar with his argument. I don't think you can present us with anyone who can explain what's wrong with Krauss' scientific argument. And that's not even assuming he's correct. Just pointing out that your bluff is as empty and hollow as the inside of your skull. If Krauss' argument is wrong, and an elementary school teacher were possessed of the right knowledge and skills, then said person could in fact show what was wrong with Krauss' argument. That this is yet another example of ignoratio elenchi, and does nothing to advance the argument that Krauss is wrong, it's just more moronic arguments for us to laugh at.

Thanks for the lulz, sweet cheeks. Got any more demonstrations of your stupidity for us to laugh at? Anything that actually shows Krauss' science is wrong? Any actual elementary school teachers to put your boast to the test?

I've got a better idea. Why don't you prove even basic competence by summarizing just what Krauss' scientific argument actually is?

(November 21, 2018 at 12:27 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: You know nothing about Krauss or his BOOKS or his science. He has no "argument" ... you fool. 
He's not my "hero" ... in some ways he's been somewhat counter-productive ... but thanks for proving again you're a liar and a fool.

Are you sure you're not really a 13 year old Valley Girl ?
That is what you sound like, sweetie dear. (gumsnap)

Stop hitting on me. I am not interested. No means no. 
And I do not give a frick about Kraus, and yes he did present a moronic, idiotic, nonsensical, atheist argument. 
And I am from NorCal. SoCal sucks.

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(November 21, 2018 at 12:32 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 12:18 am)Everena Wrote: No, stay an atheist. Believe this whole universe just magically appeared one day for no reason from an inanimate object. That's the kind of logic that suits you well. And an elementary school teacher could explain what was wrong with Krauss's stupid argument.

That's interesting, because so far you haven't bothered to explain what's wrong with Krauss' scientific argument, and freely admit you aren't even familiar with his argument.  I don't think you can present us with anyone who can explain what's wrong with Krauss' scientific argument.  And that's not even assuming he's correct.  Just pointing out that your bluff is as empty and hollow as the inside of your skull.  If Krauss' argument is wrong, and an elementary school teacher were possessed of the right knowledge and skills, then said person could in fact show what was wrong with Krauss' argument.  That this is yet another example of ignoratio elenchi, and does nothing to advance the argument that Krauss is wrong, it's just more moronic arguments for us to laugh at.

Thanks for the lulz, sweet cheeks.  Got any more demonstrations of your stupidity for us to laugh at?  Anything that actually shows Krauss' science is wrong?  Any actual elementary school teachers to put your boast to the test?

I've got a better idea.  Why don't you prove even basic competence by summarizing just what Krauss' scientific argument actually is?

He just copied some scientists theory from the 1930s, wrote a bunch of crap he knew he could never prove, and took the money and ran.

So, you lying troll, you don't EVEN KNOW anything Krauss ever said.
Oh well, sweetie Woo princess.

Someone kidnapped you and turned you into a Valley Girl. Fer sure.

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Quote:He just copied some scientists theory from the 1930s, wrote a bunch of crap he knew he could never prove, and took the money and ran.

And just what were those, exactly ?

(November 21, 2018 at 12:33 am)Everena Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 12:27 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: You know nothing about Krauss or his BOOKS or his science. He has no "argument" ... you fool. 
He's not my "hero" ... in some ways he's been somewhat counter-productive ... but thanks for proving again you're a liar and a fool.

Are you sure you're not really a 13 year old Valley Girl ?
That is what you sound like, sweetie dear. (gumsnap)

Stop hitting on me. I am not interested. No means no. 

How very amusing.

Quote:And I do not give a frick about Kraus, and yes he did present a moronic, idiotic, nonsensical, atheist argument. 

You keep saying that, yet you provide no substantive reasons why.  It's as if you never read the book. 

Quote:And I am from NorCal. SoCal sucks.

Wow.  You actually got something right.  Well done.

(November 21, 2018 at 12:28 am)Everena Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 12:26 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: As in you're never going to make up your mind..or?  Obviously, if you can't..then we can't have a rational conversation because you do not possess a cogent belief in this regard.

What? I have said God was the first cause of this universe the entire time. When do you claim I ever didn't?

You have not.  You have told us that meat fairy made all of this out of preexisting material, and that meat fairy did not make our souls.

If that's what you meant to say, that meat fairy was the ultimate cause..then okay.  I've been asking you about this for as many pages as you've been waffling over it.  Could have saved alot of time, you know. Now we know, with clarity..that you think that meat fairy did not use preexisting material and did make our souls. Correct?

(November 21, 2018 at 12:28 am)Everena Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 12:26 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: As in you're never going to make up your mind..or?  Obviously, if you can't..then we can't have a rational conversation because you do not possess a cogent belief in this regard.

What? I have said God was the first cause of this universe the entire time. When do you claim I ever didn't?

"The Universe is all of space and time and their contents, including planets, stars, galaxies, and all other forms of matter and energy." ~ Wikipedia

Did meat fairy create all of space and time or did he exist within all of space and time?

Chas

Quote:How very amusing.

I'll let you explain that to Woo Princess. LOL

(November 21, 2018 at 12:32 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:And an elementary school teacher could explain what was wrong with Krauss's stupid argument.

Great. Then you should have no problem with it either. Let's hear it. Now.

I already posted it.

(November 21, 2018 at 12:33 am)Everena Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 12:32 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: That's interesting, because so far you haven't bothered to explain what's wrong with Krauss' scientific argument, and freely admit you aren't even familiar with his argument.  I don't think you can present us with anyone who can explain what's wrong with Krauss' scientific argument.  And that's not even assuming he's correct.  Just pointing out that your bluff is as empty and hollow as the inside of your skull.  If Krauss' argument is wrong, and an elementary school teacher were possessed of the right knowledge and skills, then said person could in fact show what was wrong with Krauss' argument.  That this is yet another example of ignoratio elenchi, and does nothing to advance the argument that Krauss is wrong, it's just more moronic arguments for us to laugh at.

Thanks for the lulz, sweet cheeks.  Got any more demonstrations of your stupidity for us to laugh at?  Anything that actually shows Krauss' science is wrong?  Any actual elementary school teachers to put your boast to the test?

I've got a better idea.  Why don't you prove even basic competence by summarizing just what Krauss' scientific argument actually is?

He just copied some scientists theory from the 1930s, wrote a bunch of crap he knew he could never prove, and took the money and ran.

Then it should be a snap for you to summarize it for us. Get to it, honey pie. Time is money, you know.

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(November 21, 2018 at 12:45 am)Everena Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 12:32 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Great. Then you should have no problem with it either. Let's hear it. Now.

I already posted it.

Evidence or GTFO. And we're talking about his scientific thesis. Not any crap about his atheism. Nobody gives a crap about that.

(November 21, 2018 at 12:43 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 12:28 am)Everena Wrote: What? I have said God was the first cause of this universe the entire time. When do you claim I ever didn't?

"The Universe is all of space and time and their contents, including planets, stars, galaxies, and all other forms of matter and energy." ~ Wikipedia

Did meat fairy create all of space and time or did he exist within all of space and time?

God exists in the eternity outside this universe.