(November 21, 2018 at 12:57 am)Everena Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 12:49 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: I wasn't asking you, dumbass.

Depends on your definition of universe. If you are talking about the observable universe, known universe, then I already explained that I think God lives in another universe. If you are talking about everything that exists and even everything we can't observe and don't know anything about, then it's still the same answer, just amended to: God lives in a part of the entire universe that we cannot see (or what science calls the hidden universe or hidden universes)

Is this other part of the entire universe that we cannot see a part of the same space-time in which our universe exists?

Meat fairy has an invisible house..but did it make that invisible house?

(November 13, 2018 at 8:22 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 13, 2018 at 8:06 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: When and if it happens, get back to us .... lol, 

Everena: I won't have to get back to you. Science will publish it when it's proven and you can read it for yourself. My guess would be with in the next 5 years
meanwhile it's a baseless assertion to say they can combine the quantum level with the macro level,
Everena: Well quantum biologists are the ones saying it.

(NO ONE has been able to do that, ... which you would know if you had any education, and YOU can say nothing to support your nonsense. You're sounding like a broken record. Got anything of use or interesting ? 


No I don't liar. You've already been schooled on why your "logic" is insufficient ... and you can't even say which logic you use, and why. 

Everena: Wrong. I am the only one using any logic. And 93% of the world can get this, so that should really, really tell you something.


Do you have any plans to demonstrate that ? LMAO. 

Everena: I just did. You don't even understand what "its a matter of when, not if" means.

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So then, .... rats are surviving and fucking. Hmmm. They may be more intelligent than Evy

Everena: They have intelligence, they have brains. Even ants have intelligence.

(November 21, 2018 at 12:47 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 12:43 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: "The Universe is all of space and time and their contents, including planets, stars, galaxies, and all other forms of matter and energy." ~ Wikipedia

Did meat fairy create all of space and time or did he exist within all of space and time?

God exists in the eternity outside this universe.

You forgot the part about him sitting on his "throne" .... do the gods get any tp at the "throne", and does it flush ?

(November 21, 2018 at 12:55 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 12:53 am)Everena Wrote: And I do not give a frick about Kraus, and yes he did present a moronic, idiotic, nonsensical, atheist argument. 



Lawrence Krauss’s “argument” for atheism is like that of an artist who confines himself to using black and white materials and then concludes that, since color doesn’t show up in his drawings of fire engines and apples, it follows that fire engines and apples are not really red.

The closest Krauss comes to justifying his thesis is in the following passage:

science is an atheistic enterprise. “My practice as a scientist is atheistic,” the biologist J.B.S. Haldane wrote, in 1934. “That is to say, when I set up an experiment I assume that no god, angel, or devil is going to interfere with its course and this assumption has been justified by such success as I have achieved in my professional career.” . . . In my more than thirty years as a practicing physicist, I have never heard the word “God” mentioned in a scientific meeting. Belief or nonbelief in God is irrelevant to our understanding of the workings of nature . . .

Is this a good argument? Only if this parallel piece of “reasoning” is also a good argument:

Checkers is an atheistic enterprise. My practice as a checkers player is atheistic. That is to say, when I move a game piece across the board, I assume that no god, angel, or devil is going to interfere with its course and this assumption has been justified by such success as I have achieved in my career as a checkers champ. In my more than thirty years as a checkers player, I have never heard the word “God” mentioned at a checkers tournament. Belief or nonbelief in God is irrelevant to our understanding of the workings of the game.


So, it isn’t just science—even checkers proves atheism! Who knew?

Of course, the fallacy in the latter “argument” is obvious. That we need make no reference to X in the course of doing Y doesn’t prove that X does not exist. We need make no reference to general relativity when studying dentistry, but that doesn’t cast doubt on Einstein’s discovery. We need make no mention of the physiology of tapeworms when engineering bridges, but that doesn’t mean that reports of people having tapeworms are all bogus. Similarly, the fact that scientists need make no reference to God when doing physics, biology, or any other science doesn’t prove—or even suggest—that the existence of God is doubtful.

NOTHING in that addresses Krauss' science. Can you even read Woo Princess ?

His science regarding what? 

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2...f-nothing/

It is remarkable to think that, a century ago, quantum theory was barely formed, general relativity was a work in progress and only a few scientists believed there was a beginning to the universe. We have come a long, long way since then by developing scientific tools that have proved themselves both reliable and remarkably fruitful. As Krauss’s insightful book shows, these days we really can talk with scientific rigour about the history and even the prehistoric origins of our universe.

Yet despite its clear strengths, A Universe From Nothing is not quite, as Richard Dawkins hopefully declares in the afterword, a “knockout blow” for the idea that a deity must have kicked the universe into being.[/size]

Krauss does want to deliver that blow: towards the end of the book, he promises that we really can have something from nothing – “even the laws of physics may not be necessary or required”. Ultimately, though, he has to perform a little sleight of hand. Space and time can indeed come from nothing; nothing, as Krauss explains beautifully, being an extremely unstable state from which the production of “something” is pretty much inevitable.

However, the laws of physics can’t be conjured from nothing. In the end, the best answer is that they arise from our existence within a multiverse, where all the universes have their own laws – ours being just so for no particular reason.
Krauss contends that the multiverse makes the question of what determined our laws of nature “less significant”. Truthfully, it just puts the question beyond science – for now, at least. That (together with the frustratingly opaque origins of a multiverse) means Krauss can’t quite knock out those who think there must ultimately be a prime mover. Not that this matters too much: the juvenile asides that litter the first third of the book (for example, “I am tempted to retort here that theologians are expert at nothing”) mean that, by the time we get to the fascinating core of his argument, Krauss will be preaching only to the converted.

Quote:His science regarding what?

LMFAO
How 'bout you tell us, WP, (woo princess). YOU said a Grade School teacher could refute his "argument" .... now you want us to tell you what you were talking about ?
Jesus. Bitch be cray-cray.

(November 21, 2018 at 1:00 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:God lives in a part of the entire universe that we cannot see (or what science calls the hidden universe or hidden universes.

Isn't that precious. Woo princess' god is playing peek-a-boo in a universe we can't see.

Yes, or practically the entire world would commit suicide.

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(November 21, 2018 at 1:00 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 12:57 am)Everena Wrote: Depends on your definition of universe. If you are talking about the observable universe, known universe, then I already explained that I think God lives in another universe. If you are talking about everything that exists and even everything we can't observe and don't know anything about, then it's still the same answer, just amended to: God lives in a part of the entire universe that we cannot see (or what science calls the hidden universe or hidden universes)

Is this other part of the entire universe that we cannot see a part of the same space-time in which our universe exists?

How the frick should I know if science doesn't even know?

No doubt any grade school teacher responsible for the smoldering wreckage of a primate called Everena would be a wreck enough itself to misunderstand the meaning of “refute”.

(November 21, 2018 at 1:00 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Meat fairy has an invisible house..but did it make that invisible house?

God is massive, bigger than this entire planet.

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(November 21, 2018 at 1:09 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:His science regarding what?

LMFAO
How 'bout you tell us, WP, (woo princess). YOU said a Grade School teacher could refute his "argument" .... now you want us to tell you what you were talking about ?
Jesus. Bitch be cray-cray.

I just did. You should really learn to read one of these days!

Right, meat fairy's a huuge fricken guy with an invisible house, but did he build that huge fricken guy sized house?

(November 21, 2018 at 1:03 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(November 21, 2018 at 12:47 am)CDF47 Wrote: God exists in the eternity outside this universe.

You forgot the part about him sitting on his "throne" .... do the gods get any tp at the "throne", and does it flush ?

You have Isaiah 45:7 in your signature.  The ESV has it translated as, "I form light and create darkness; I make well-being and create calamity; I am the Lord, who does all these things."