(November 22, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: I don't believe in souls in other universes. I believe our true selves/souls are existing in superposition, here and in another universe.

Evidence for these stupid claims please.

(November 22, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: If they can come up with a more logical explanation for how our souls inhabit this flesh and how we move to another plane of existence when we die, then I will consider it. 

No you won't because you have yet to demonstrate that there is any such thing as a soul in the first place.

(November 22, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Everena Wrote: "we agree on far more than we disagree on."

Everena: There are only 1.2 billion catholics in the world, not billions, and you have no idea what they individually believe. Also, you are stating church doctrine, and I have already been saved by Jesus, and been baptized.

I was born and raised catholic. You are a liar.

(November 22, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: I already provided you with a youtuve video of him that you obviously just ignored. And yes it is in the exact same way I believe in a soul. All concepts of the human soul are pretty similiar.

No. They are not. If you are ignorant to think such a stupid idea then you are even dumber than I first thought.

(November 22, 2018 at 8:31 pm)Everena Wrote: You must be some lowlife loser who has nothing better to do with his life to than insult random people on the internet that you know nothing about and have never met.

And there is a blot on your karma.

(November 22, 2018 at 8:31 pm)Everena Wrote: No, you are just not familiar with their theory which is that the brain is merely a receiver of our conscoiusness and we are quite possibly receiving it from outside the brain.

Liar. We are familiar with that bovine claim and HOW DARE YOU PRETEND TO TELL ANYONE WHAT THEY DO OR DONT KNOW.

You are an arrogant ass.

(November 22, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Everena Wrote: You must be some lowlife loser who has nothing better to do with his life than to insult random people on the internet who you know nothing about, and have never met.

Really building up that karmic debt, aren't you.

Actually, it is obvious that you dont believe a word you post. Liar.

(November 22, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Everena Wrote: It has been their theory for 20 years and they have now proven it partially. I also already gave you a link to Hameroff discussing this exact topic. They're are also numerous videos on youtube of them discussing it together. Penrose intitially did not want to say that, and only Hameroff said it. But now they both say it-like it or not. And yes it is also mentioned in the article. The article specifically says it accomodates spiritual approaches to consciousness. Hameroff has said in many interviews that it is really MORE accomodating of the spiritual approach. Too bad for you.
https://phys.org/news/2014-01-discovery-...rates.html

BS. Read the article linked again you liar.

(November 22, 2018 at 11:22 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 11:12 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Wasn’t it you who in the process of revealing your ignorances, conceits and bullying personality on this website for everyone to see, said my life has no beginning, no ending, and lasts forever?  What does it matter if I waste but a little of an infinite resource?   See, I am not insulting some random person.  I am insulting you, because it is hard not to treat a person who says what you say and conduct herself how you do on this forum with anything less than the utmost of contempt.

If you cannot cannot handle reading someone else's beliefs without going into a psychotic rage over it, you should get some help.

There is no "psychotic rage" in that post. You are a liar.

(November 22, 2018 at 11:35 pm)Everena Wrote: Wrong. They have the only theory that has ever even been partially proven and corroborated. Neuroscientists agree with all proven science. And you know nothing about the theory that I have been following for 20 years, so stop pretending that you do. And microtubules were always the key to proving it all. And they have done that.

Liar. They have not claimed anything external to the physical brain.

(November 23, 2018 at 12:15 am)Everena Wrote: Neither one of us has pushed anything on anyone.

Liar. You have been pushing your new age crap ever since you got here.

(November 23, 2018 at 12:15 am)Everena Wrote: I answered people's questions and debated the topics presented.

Liar. All you have done is stamp your little feet and insist you are right. That is not answering questions, nor is it debate.

(November 23, 2018 at 12:15 am)Everena Wrote: You just like to twist anything you possibly can, and insult people as much as you can, because you have no valid argument and nothing intelligent to say.

Projection. A classic case.

(November 23, 2018 at 12:15 am)Everena Wrote: You know nothing. And I am sure that I am far more intelligent and well educated than you are.

There goes your karma again.

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: I know what microtubules are and I know why they are the key to this theory.

Demonstrate your understanding in your own words. You can't.

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: You know nothing and sound like the ignorant uneducated blathering fool that you are.

Poof. Your karma is fast becoming a train wreck.

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: You never bother to find out what the actual facts are,

Projection

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: and I am just forced to prove you wrong over and over again after you've once again spewed some ignorant crap.

You have proven nothing. All you have done is blare like the ignorant foghorn you are.

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: And didn't we already have this argument? Anyway, you lose.

I see you are familiar with pigeon chess

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: The only time any scientist doubted them was prior to them proving this incredibly important part of their theory in 2014. 
And yes, you can partially prove a theory when you have 20 testable predictions and you are able to prove 6 of them as they have. The other 14 predictions are still hypothesis, but NONE are refuted by anyone. Maybe you should learn to read and stop pretending you know anything. https://phys.org/news/2014-01-discovery-...rates.html  

You were clearly home schooled.

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: Oh and Happy Thanksgiving!

Not American nor live in America so meh.

I just want to say that I hope you, Everena, and you, CDF, had a happy Thanksgiving. I know that you, Everena, have protested that you feel that you are in hell. But I cannot but believe that even for you, there are moments of respite and peace not reflected by such things. I hope yesterday was one such opportunity, and that you enjoyed your day.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled cray cray...

Quote:Everena
I know what microtubules are and I know why they are the key to this theory. You know nothing and sound like the ignorant uneducated blathering fool that you are. You never bother to find out what the actual facts are, and I am just forced to prove you wrong over and over again after you've once again spewed some ignorant crap. And didn't we already have this argument? Anyway, you lose. The only time any scientist doubted them was prior to them proving this incredibly important part of their theory in 2014. 
And yes, you can partially prove a theory when you have 20 testable predictions and you are able to prove 6 of them as they have. The other 14 predictions are still hypothesis, but NONE are refuted by anyone. Maybe you should learn to read and stop pretending you know anything. https://phys.org/news/2014-01-discovery-...rates.html  Oh and Happy Thanksgiving!

You know nothing about anything. Absolutely nothing. You're a snake-oli peddler. 
In no way have you answered the objections in what I posted. If ALL eukaryotic cells have micro tubules, like the cells in your ass, 
then your ass should be intelligent. Microtubules are the answer to NOTHING, and no real neuro-scientist agrees with this utter clap-trap. 
Once AGAIN, the article you referenced IS NOT SAYING what you claim it is saying, just like the first one you MIS-characterized. 
What a fucking joke. There is NO scientist that agrees with these idiots and this complete woo-woo. 
Posting the SAME thing again just shows all you have is "nothing". No one seriously thinks the location of consciousness is miicro tubules. 

LMFAO


"MTs have been found to be excellent electronic conductors, conduction taking various routes through the MTs, along their axes, and along and around their surfaces. The tubular structure itself promotes greater conductance than is possible through single tubulins; and conductance increases with MT length.1 Importantly, MTs provide a vector for the electronic conduction. Orch OR theory proposes that MT quantum vibrations (in megahertz, MHz) interfere and produce much slower ‘beat frequencies’, and that these can be recorded by electroencephalography (EEG), a technique which records the collective pattern of neuronal activity in the brain and separates the pattern into bands (α, β, theta, …) of different frequencies. The mentioned beat frequencies are in the gamma range and are typically of 40 Hz frequency.40 The implication is that this 40 Hz gamma frequency is produced somewhere within the brain by its complement of neuronal MTs. Moreover, the beat frequencies, which apparently arise as a consequence of the disposition of tubulin as MTs, result in slower and, thus, more realistic, timescales for the repetitive OR events to be ordered as a conscious substratum than would be possible if the tubulin primary energetic vibrations of around 10 MHz were solely responsible for OR events. Thus, it seems that the organization of tubulin at specific sites into macromolecular MTs, such as occurs at the synaptic inputs1 of animal neurons and the MT-organizing centers of plant cells (see later), assist in the orchestration of OR events as well as the generation of beat frequencies, such as those of 40Hz recorded by EEG."

There is NOTHING in that, that says ANYTHING about what you claim. There is no evidence that consciousness arises in micro tubules. None. Period. All they have demonstrated is that quantum reactions *can* occur in MT.
ALl they have is SPECULATION. If they proved what you are claiming, they would have a Nobel.

They proved NOTHING. AND you actually understand SO LITTLE about it, you are totally UNABLE to restate anything IN YOUR OWN words.
You're a worthless amateur hack.

What a woo-woo joke.

(November 23, 2018 at 7:41 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: I just want to say that I hope you, Everena, and you, CDF, had a happy Thanksgiving.  I know that you, Everena, have protested that you feel that you are in hell.  But I cannot but believe that even for you, there are moments of respite and peace not reflected by such things.  I hope yesterday was one such opportunity, and that you enjoyed your day.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled cray cray...

Thank you. My Thanksgiving was fantastic. I hope yours was nice as well. And I am in hell because this is hell.

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(November 23, 2018 at 4:02 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: [quote='Everena' pid='1856789' dateline='1542954001']


Oh just keep on laughing, like the ignorant uneducated fools that you are. This is for you too Bucky Ball.

Here's a .gov link about it

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4594572/

Here's another link saying the exact same thing:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...085105.htm

And here's another link saying the exact same thing again

https://www.journals.elsevier.com/physic...vibrations

And here is another link about it 
https://www.scribd.com/document/31829521...sciousness

And here's another link about it
https://www.quora.com/As-of-yet-is-there...t-Hameroff

Get it yet fool? They proved the most important part of their theory.

Having been instructed ...








Everena: Blah Blah Blah. You lost this argument and you know absolutely nothing about their theory.

Everena actually knows nothing about this piece-of-shit woo theory, (which no working neuro-scientist supports), and she know SO LITTLE about science, she is unable to even state what the theory is, in her own words.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier#Fake_journals
"Fake journals
Further information: Australasian Journal of Bone & Joint Medicine
At a 2009 court case in Australia where Merck & Co. was being sued by a user of Vioxx, the plaintiff alleged that Merck had paid Elsevier to publish the Australasian Journal of Bone and Joint Medicine, which had the appearance of being a peer-reviewed academic journal but in fact contained only articles favourable to Merck drugs.[42][43][44][45] Merck described the journal as a "complimentary publication," denied claims that articles within it were ghost written by Merck, and stated that the articles were all reprinted from peer-reviewed medical journals.[46] In May 2009, Elsevier Health Sciences CEO Hansen released a statement regarding Australia-based sponsored journals, conceding that they were "sponsored article compilation publications, on behalf of pharmaceutical clients, that were made to look like journals and lacked the proper disclosures." The statement acknowledged that it "was an unacceptable practice."[47] The Scientist reported that, according to an Elsevier spokesperson, six sponsored publications "were put out by their Australia office and bore the Excerpta Medica imprint from 2000 to 2005," namely the Australasian Journal of Bone and Joint Medicine (Australas. J. Bone Joint Med.), the Australasian Journal of General Practice (Australas. J. Gen. Pract.), the Australasian Journal of Neurology (Australas. J. Neurol.), the Australasian Journal of Cardiology (Australas. J. Cardiol.), the Australasian Journal of Clinical Pharmacy (Australas. J. Clin. Pharm.), and the Australasian Journal of Cardiovascular Medicine (Australas. J. Cardiovasc. Med.).[48] Excerpta Medica was a "strategic medical communications agency" run by Elsevier, according to the imprint's web page.[49] In October 2010, Excerpta Medica was acquired by Adelphi Worldwide.[50] "

LOL

BTW, no theory says "and we are quite possibly receiving it from outside the brain." LOL. "Quite possibly" ? LOL
Quite possibly this fool be cray-cray.

(November 23, 2018 at 8:48 am)Everena Wrote: Thank you. My Thanksgiving was fantastic. I hope yours was nice as well. And I am in hell because this is hell.

I hope you are kidding.

Why are you forcing your way into hell everyday?

I am starting to think we should release you from your pain.

(November 23, 2018 at 8:13 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:Everena
I know what microtubules are and I know why they are the key to this theory. You know nothing and sound like the ignorant uneducated blathering fool that you are. You never bother to find out what the actual facts are, and I am just forced to prove you wrong over and over again after you've once again spewed some ignorant crap. And didn't we already have this argument? Anyway, you lose. The only time any scientist doubted them was prior to them proving this incredibly important part of their theory in 2014. 
And yes, you can partially prove a theory when you have 20 testable predictions and you are able to prove 6 of them as they have. The other 14 predictions are still hypothesis, but NONE are refuted by anyone. Maybe you should learn to read and stop pretending you know anything. https://phys.org/news/2014-01-discovery-...rates.html  Oh and Happy Thanksgiving!

(November 23, 2018 at 8:13 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: You know nothing about anything. Absolutely nothing. You're a snake-oli peddler.
 

No, you are uneducated and you refuse to read and face facts. I have provided you the material. You are now officially a science denier

(November 23, 2018 at 8:13 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: In no way have you answered the objections in what I posted. If ALL eukaryotic cells have micro tubules, like the cells in your ass, 
then your ass should be intelligent. Microtubules are the answer to NOTHING, and no real neuro-scientist agrees with this utter clap-trap. 
 

Intelligence? We are not even discussing intelligence!! Consciousness and intelligence have nothing to do with eachother. You don't even understand the subject matter we are discussing! And microtubules are important in the brain as a receiving mechanism for quantum vibrations that they have now proven are happening. What part of that confuses someone as dumb as you?

(November 23, 2018 at 8:13 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Once AGAIN, the article you referenced IS NOT SAYING what you claim it is saying, just like the first one you MIS-characterized. 
What a fucking joke. There is NO scientist that agrees with these idiots and this complete woo-woo. 
Posting the SAME thing again just shows all you have is "nothing". No one seriously thinks the location of consciousness is miicro tubules. 

LMFAO
 

You are really claiming that no scientists take them seriously? They are working with a team of neuroscientists, medical doctors, psychologists, physicists, biologists, and cosmologists from all over the world and they have been for like 25 years. Their theory was corroborated by scientists in Japan, and at MIT and at the University of Pennsylvania. Everyone in the scientific community takes them seriously. You just don't like what their theory may eventually prove, which is really just too strange.

(November 23, 2018 at 8:13 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: "MTs have been found to be excellent electronic conductors, conduction taking various routes through the MTs, along their axes, and along and around their surfaces. The tubular structure itself promotes greater conductance than is possible through single tubulins; and conductance increases with MT length.1 Importantly, MTs provide a vector for the electronic conduction. Orch OR theory proposes that MT quantum vibrations (in megahertz, MHz) interfere and produce much slower ‘beat frequencies’, and that these can be recorded by electroencephalography (EEG), a technique which records the collective pattern of neuronal activity in the brain and separates the pattern into bands (α, β, theta, …) of different frequencies. The mentioned beat frequencies are in the gamma range and are typically of 40 Hz frequency.40 The implication is that this 40 Hz gamma frequency is produced somewhere within the brain by its complement of neuronal MTs. Moreover, the beat frequencies, which apparently arise as a consequence of the disposition of tubulin as MTs, result in slower and, thus, more realistic, timescales for the repetitive OR events to be ordered as a conscious substratum than would be possible if the tubulin primary energetic vibrations of around 10 MHz were solely responsible for OR events. Thus, it seems that the organization of tubulin at specific sites into macromolecular MTs, such as occurs at the synaptic inputs1 of animal neurons and the MT-organizing centers of plant cells (see later), assist in the orchestration of OR events as well as the generation of beat frequencies, such as those of 40Hz recorded by EEG."

There is NOTHING in that, that says ANYTHING about what you claim. There is no evidence that consciousness arises in micro tubules. None. Period. All they have demonstrated is that quantum reactions *can* occur in MT.
ALl they have is SPECULATION. If they proved what you are claiming, they would have a Nobel.

They proved NOTHING. AND you actually understand SO LITTLE about it, you are totally UNABLE to restate anything IN YOUR OWN words.
You're a worthless amateur hack.

What a woo-woo  joke.

Everena: No, you are the joke. Everyone who is familiar with this theory knows what they are attempting to prove and that they are part of the way to the goal.


"Orch OR was harshly criticized from its inception, as the brain was considered too "warm, wet, and noisy" for seemingly delicate quantum processes. However, evidence has now shown warm quantum coherence in plant photosynthesis, bird brain navigation, our sense of smell, and brain microtubules. The recent discovery of warm temperature quantum vibrations in microtubules inside brain neurons by the research group led by Anirban Bandyopadhyay, PhD, at the National Institute of Material Sciences in Tsukuba, Japan (and now at MIT), corroborates the pair's theory and suggests that EEG rhythms also derive from deeper level microtubule vibrations. In addition, work from the laboratory of Roderick G. Eckenhoff, MD, at the University of Pennsylvania, suggests that anesthesia, which selectively erases consciousness while sparing non-conscious brain activities, acts via microtubules in brain neurons"


"The origin of consciousness reflects our place in the universe, the nature of our existence. Did consciousness evolve from complex computations among brain neurons, as most scientists assert? Or has consciousness, in some sense, been here all along, as spiritual approaches maintain?" ask Hameroff and Penrose in the current review. "This opens a potential Pandora's Box, but our theory accommodates both these views, suggesting consciousness derives from quantum vibrations in microtubules, protein polymers inside brain neurons, which both govern neuronal and synaptic function, and connect brain processes to self-organizing processes in the fine scale, 'proto-conscious' quantum structure of reality."


"After 20 years of skeptical criticism, "the evidence now clearly supports Orch OR," continue Hameroff and Penrose. "Our new paper updates the evidence, clarifies Orch OR quantum bits, or "qubits," as helical pathways in microtubule lattices, rebuts critics, and reviews 20 testable predictions of Orch OR published in 1998 – of these, six are confirmed and none refuted."




Read more at: 

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(November 23, 2018 at 9:37 am)LastPoet Wrote:

(November 23, 2018 at 8:48 am)Everena Wrote: Thank you. My Thanksgiving was fantastic. I hope yours was nice as well. And I am in hell because this is hell.

I hope you are kidding.

Why are you forcing your way into hell everyday?

I am starting to think we should release you from your pain.

No, I just believe this is hell. All around us people are suffering and in pain.

(November 23, 2018 at 9:41 am)Everena Wrote: No, I just believe this is hell. All around us people are suffering and in pain.

I think life is like is like eating from a bowl of salt that has a few nuggets of sugar inside. You have to eat a spoonful everyday, but sometimes you get a sweet.

So I hardly characterize anything as hell, in the real world. It is just reality. And its quite the bich.

(November 23, 2018 at 7:36 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: I don't believe in souls in other universes. I believe our true selves/souls are existing in superposition, here and in another universe.

Evidence for these stupid claims please.
Everena: It's just my belief. 

(November 22, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: If they can come up with a more logical explanation for how our souls inhabit this flesh and how we move to another plane of existence when we die, then I will consider it. 

No you won't because you have yet to demonstrate that there is any such thing as a soul in the first place.
Everena: I have all the proof I need for myself. Some day you will too.

(November 22, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Everena Wrote: "we agree on far more than we disagree on."

Everena: There are only 1.2 billion catholics in the world, not billions, and you have no idea what they individually believe. Also, you are stating church doctrine, and I have already been saved by Jesus, and been baptized.

I was born and raised catholic. You are a liar.
Everena: Excuse me? What specifically are you claiming that I lied about?

(November 22, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: I already provided you with a youtuve video of him that you obviously just ignored. And yes it is in the exact same way I believe in a soul. All concepts of the human soul are pretty similiar.

No. They are not. If you are ignorant to think such a stupid idea then you are even dumber than I first thought.
Everena: Yes, they certainly are.

(November 22, 2018 at 8:31 pm)Everena Wrote: You must be some lowlife loser who has nothing better to do with his life to than insult random people on the internet that you know nothing about and have never met.

And there is a blot on your karma.
Everena: Nope, on his.

(November 22, 2018 at 8:31 pm)Everena Wrote: No, you are just not familiar with their theory which is that the brain is merely a receiver of our conscoiusness and we are quite possibly receiving it from outside the brain.

Liar. We are familiar with that bovine claim and HOW DARE YOU PRETEND TO TELL ANYONE WHAT THEY DO OR DONT KNOW.

You are an arrogant ass.
Everena: NO, he definitely knows absolutely not one thing about the theory that I have been following for the past 20 years. And do not talk to me like I am a child or I will never respond to you again.

(November 22, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Everena Wrote: You must be some lowlife loser who has nothing better to do with his life than to insult random people on the internet who you know nothing about, and have never met.

Really building up that karmic debt, aren't you.

Actually, it is obvious that you dont believe a word you post. Liar.

Everena: Nope, his karmic debt. And you are a harassing liar.

(November 22, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Everena Wrote: It has been their theory for 20 years and they have now proven it partially. I also already gave you a link to Hameroff discussing this exact topic. They're are also numerous videos on youtube of them discussing it together. Penrose intitially did not want to say that, and only Hameroff said it. But now they both say it-like it or not. And yes it is also mentioned in the article. The article specifically says it accomodates spiritual approaches to consciousness. Hameroff has said in many interviews that it is really MORE accomodating of the spiritual approach. Too bad for you.
https://phys.org/news/2014-01-discovery-...rates.html

BS. Read the article linked again you liar.
Everena: I don't need to read anything. I am familiar with it.

(November 22, 2018 at 11:22 pm)Everena Wrote: If you cannot cannot handle reading someone else's beliefs without going into a psychotic rage over it, you should get some help.

There is no "psychotic rage" in that post. You are a liar.
Everena: He has continually harassed me and now you are harassing me. I am putting him and you on ignore. 

(November 22, 2018 at 11:35 pm)Everena Wrote: Wrong. They have the only theory that has ever even been partially proven and corroborated. Neuroscientists agree with all proven science. And you know nothing about the theory that I have been following for 20 years, so stop pretending that you do. And microtubules were always the key to proving it all. And they have done that.

Liar. They have not claimed anything external to the physical brain.

(November 23, 2018 at 12:15 am)Everena Wrote: Neither one of us has pushed anything on anyone.

Liar. You have been pushing your new age crap ever since you got here.
Everena: I am NOT even a New-Ager, nor have I ever been. You know absolutely nothing about me.

(November 23, 2018 at 12:15 am)Everena Wrote: I answered people's questions and debated the topics presented.

Liar. All you have done is stamp your little feet and insist you are right. That is not answering questions, nor is it debate.
Everena: All you have done is insult people and say nothing that is accurate or intelligent or worthy of my time. Ignore.

(November 23, 2018 at 12:15 am)Everena Wrote: You just like to twist anything you possibly can, and insult people as much as you can, because you have no valid argument and nothing intelligent to say.

Projection. A classic case.
Everena: Are you like this when you are not on the internet? If so, I am sure you are single and will probably stay that way.

(November 23, 2018 at 12:15 am)Everena Wrote: You know nothing. And I am sure that I am far more intelligent and well educated than you are.

There goes your karma again.
Everena: Nope, his again.

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: I know what microtubules are and I know why they are the key to this theory.

Demonstrate your understanding in your own words. You can't.
Everena: I am not interested in discussing anything with you.

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: You know nothing and sound like the ignorant uneducated blathering fool that you are.

Poof. Your karma is fast becoming a train wreck.
Everena: NOPE

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: You never bother to find out what the actual facts are,

Projection

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: and I am just forced to prove you wrong over and over again after you've once again spewed some ignorant crap.

You have proven nothing. All you have done is blare like the ignorant foghorn you are.
Everena: I proved it repeatedly. You all just cannot stand facts that don't agree with your illogical worldview.

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: And didn't we already have this argument? Anyway, you lose.

I see you are familiar with pigeon chess

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: The only time any scientist doubted them was prior to them proving this incredibly important part of their theory in 2014. 
And yes, you can partially prove a theory when you have 20 testable predictions and you are able to prove 6 of them as they have. The other 14 predictions are still hypothesis, but NONE are refuted by anyone. Maybe you should learn to read and stop pretending you know anything. https://phys.org/news/2014-01-discovery-...rates.html  

You were clearly home schooled.
Everena: No, I attended public school where I was in a gifted program for those with high intelligence. I also have a university education and I very much doubt either one of those things is true of you.

(November 23, 2018 at 1:51 am)Everena Wrote: Oh and Happy Thanksgiving!

Not American nor live in America so meh.
Everena: Shocking

When you set out to make value judgements about what is, you end up making value judgements about what is. Strange, but true.