Woops.... snookums is wrong again about epigenetics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics
This second language is constantly evolving, and in fact can change in ONE generation, depending on the experience(s) of the progenitor.

"The term also refers to the changes themselves: functionally relevant changes to the genome that do not involve a change in the nucleotide sequence. Examples of mechanisms that produce such changes are DNA methylation and histone modification, each of which alters how genes are expressed without altering the underlying DNA sequence. Gene expression can be controlled through the action of repressor proteins that attach to silencer regions of the DNA. These epigenetic changes may last through cell divisions for the duration of the cell's life, and may also last for multiple generations even though they do not involve changes in the underlying DNA sequence of the organism;[5] instead, non-genetic factors cause the organism's genes to behave (or "express themselves") differently.

One example of an epigenetic change in eukaryotic biology is the process of cellular differentiation. During morphogenesis, totipotent stem cells become the various pluripotent cell lines of the embryo, which in turn become fully differentiated cells. In other words, as a single fertilized egg cell – the zygote – continues to divide, the resulting daughter cells change into all the different cell types in an organism, including neurons, muscle cells, epithelium, endothelium of blood vessels, etc., by activating some genes while inhibiting the expression of others.

"Epigenetic inheritance adds another dimension to the modern picture of evolution. The genome changes slowly, through the processes of random mutation and natural selection. It takes many generations for a genetic trait to become common in a population. The epigenome, on the other hand, can change rapidly in response to signals from the environment. And epigenetic changes can happen in many individuals at once. Through epigenetic inheritance, some of the experiences of the parents may pass to future generations. At the same time, the epigenome remains flexible as environmental conditions continue to change. Epigenetic inheritance may allow an organism to continually adjust its gene expression to fit its environment - without changing its DNA code."

Dumbass opened a can of worms that refutes her nonsense. LOL ... and about which she knows nothing.

https://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/...heritance/

But just you wait. She's gonna solve the mysteries of the universe for us.

(November 25, 2018 at 3:01 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: The variety of life cycles is very great. It is not simply a matter of being sexual or asexual. There are many intermediate stages. A gradual origin, with each step favored by natural selection, is possible (Kondrashov 1997). The earliest steps involve single-celled organisms exchanging genetic information; they need not be distinct sexes. Males and females most emphatically would not evolve independently. Sex, by definition, depends on both male and female acting together. As sex evolved, there would have been some incompatibilities causing sterility (just as there are today), but these would affect individuals, not whole populations, and the genes that cause such incompatibility would rapidly be selected against.

Many hypotheses have been proposed for the evolutionary advantage of sex (Barton and Charlesworth 1998). There is good experimental support for some of these, including resistance to deleterious mutation load (Davies et al. 1999; Paland and Lynch 2006) and more rapid adaptation in a rapidly changing environment, especially to acquire resistance to parasites (Sá Martins 2000).

Great! I see you have copying and pasting down pat. That in no way answers my question though, so strawman argument and try again.

The question is why would we even have a sex drive or a will to live or an immune system?
Just because of nothing and for no reason? How would nothingness care if our species survived?

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Also, we have discovered that there are approx 200 billion different galaxies. Do you really think humans are the highest form of intelligence in 200 billion galaxies?

(November 25, 2018 at 3:01 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: Irrelevant

It is totally relevant, so answer the question and stop hedging.

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(November 25, 2018 at 3:40 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Woops.... snookums is wrong again about epigenetics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics
This second language is constantly evolving, and in fact can change in ONE generation, depending on the experience(s) of the progenitor.

"The term also refers to the changes themselves: functionally relevant changes to the genome that do not involve a change in the nucleotide sequence. Examples of mechanisms that produce such changes are DNA methylation and histone modification, each of which alters how genes are expressed without altering the underlying DNA sequence. Gene expression can be controlled through the action of repressor proteins that attach to silencer regions of the DNA. These epigenetic changes may last through cell divisions for the duration of the cell's life, and may also last for multiple generations even though they do not involve changes in the underlying DNA sequence of the organism;[5] instead, non-genetic factors cause the organism's genes to behave (or "express themselves") differently.

One example of an epigenetic change in eukaryotic biology is the process of cellular differentiation. During morphogenesis, totipotent stem cells become the various pluripotent cell lines of the embryo, which in turn become fully differentiated cells. In other words, as a single fertilized egg cell – the zygote – continues to divide, the resulting daughter cells change into all the different cell types in an organism, including neurons, muscle cells, epithelium, endothelium of blood vessels, etc., by activating some genes while inhibiting the expression of others.

"Epigenetic inheritance adds another dimension to the modern picture of evolution. The genome changes slowly, through the processes of random mutation and natural selection. It takes many generations for a genetic trait to become common in a population. The epigenome, on the other hand, can change rapidly in response to signals from the environment. And epigenetic changes can happen in many individuals at once. Through epigenetic inheritance, some of the experiences of the parents may pass to future generations. At the same time, the epigenome remains flexible as environmental conditions continue to change. Epigenetic inheritance may allow an organism to continually adjust its gene expression to fit its environment - without changing its DNA code."

Dumbass opened a can of worms that refutes her nonsense. LOL  ... and about which she knows nothing.

https://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/...heritance/

But just you wait. She's gonna solve the mysteries of the universe for us.

All you do is present strawman arguments and make yourself look like even more of a foolish idiot than you already have before. Try harder to figure out what it is that we are actually discussing.

Quote:The point is clear. Scientists have now discovered a second language, that they never even knew existed, written in our dna, instructing our genes what to do.

I know snookums ... it's hard to be that stupid.
That "second language" is called epigenetics.
I should have known better than to assume you would even know what you were talking about.

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Quote:Just because of nothing and for no reason? How would nothingness care if our species survived?

Yet another monumentally ignorant question.
Species evolved. The ones that survived had evolved immune systems and survival INSTINCTS. Ever hear of "instincts" ?
But thanks for bringing up yet another huge field in Biology. How immune systems evolved. Very interesting.
http://www.sidalc.net/cgi-bin/wxis.exe/?...mfn=023163

(November 25, 2018 at 2:53 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 25, 2018 at 2:51 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Sorry dumbass, but (obviously) your statement about "why" is another strawman. Science also wants to know HOW things came to be the way they are, which you have been told BEFORE here.
Again your simple-minded (false) dichotomy forces you to MISS the point. Evolutionary Biology ... that's a little hint for snookums ..... HOW did the species on the planet evolve ? 
Biology has no position on "food on the planet" as the phrase is so monumentally moronic, no one would even THINK of addressing your idiotic uninformed question. 
Biology DOES have mountains of evidence that plants evolved on Earth before there were any animals to eat them ... thus making your stupid question totally irrelevant.

I know it makes you sad because it's a complete and utter fail for atheism. Boo Hoo.

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(November 25, 2018 at 2:52 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: LOL, what?!  That question is so idiotic, I think Huggy would laugh.

So you're admitting that you are too dumb to come up with an answer.

Sure, honey.  Keep on trollin.’

(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

(November 25, 2018 at 2:48 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 25, 2018 at 1:49 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: Food is living organisms. Species that require food are also living organisms. All living organisms are the result of evolution. That some species feed on others is the result evolution, environment and adaptation. Got it yet?

I said no more strawman arguments. You did not answer the question I asked. Get that yet?

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(November 25, 2018 at 2:47 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Fact: All species of beetles are edible.

And that is just more proof that Higher intelligence was involved in the creation of our planet. Animals that die are even food for us in case we need it to stay alive.

Fact: The average human body contains enough fat to make seven bars of soap

It appears this thread is about ready for stir-fry recipes or cheese recipes. 

... or perhaps Tasty Delicious Plant recipes.

(November 25, 2018 at 4:54 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: It appears this thread is about ready for stir-fry recipes or cheese recipes. 

... or perhaps Tasty Delicious Plant recipes.

Yeah yeah yeah. Fine. no more food talk then. Here's another nice video for dudes like you Bucky

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(November 25, 2018 at 4:27 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

(November 25, 2018 at 2:48 pm)Everena Wrote: I said no more strawman arguments. You did not answer the question I asked. Get that yet?

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And that is just more proof that Higher intelligence was involved in the creation of our planet. Animals that die are even food for us in case we need it to stay alive.

Fact: The average human body contains enough fat to make seven bars of soap

Yes and that is again more proof that intelligence was involved in our creation. We store fat so our bodies will stay alive if we run out of food and give us time to find more food. God is so awesome. How would nothing care if our species survived or not? Where is your ability to apply simple logic? Did you throw it out the window so you could run around pretending you will never be held accountable for any of your actions? Well, too bad for you. God exists, like it or not.

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(November 25, 2018 at 4:27 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

(November 25, 2018 at 2:48 pm)Everena Wrote: I said no more strawman arguments. You did not answer the question I asked. Get that yet?

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And that is just more proof that Higher intelligence was involved in the creation of our planet. Animals that die are even food for us in case we need it to stay alive.

Fact: The average human body contains enough fat to make seven bars of soap

Yes and that is again more proof that intelligence was involved in our creation. We store fat so our bodies will stay alive if we run out of food and give us time to find more food. God is so awesome. How would nothing care if our species survived or not? Where is your ability to apply simple logic? Did you throw it out the window so you could run around pretending you will never be held accountable for any of your actions? Well, too bad for you. God exists, like it or not.

Quote:Yes and that is again more proof that intelligence was involved in our creation. We store fat so our bodies will stay alive if we run out of food and give us time to find more food. God is so awesome.

Evolution is so awesome. 
You fool god(s) forgot to feed the millions of starving babies and children in Yemen. 
They clearly had no time to find more.

(November 25, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:Yes and that is again more proof that intelligence was involved in our creation. We store fat so our bodies will stay alive if we run out of food and give us time to find more food. God is so awesome.

Evolution is so awesome. 
You fool god(s) forgot to feed the millions of starving babies and children in Yemen. 
They clearly had no time to find more.

80 thousand is not millions and the social problems here are up to us to fix. With how much money people have there should be no starving people anywhere. Farmers produce enough food every year to feed 10 billion people.

https://www.unicef.org/factoftheweek/index_53356.html
25,000 per day, world-wide.

If there is enough food, (which YOU CLAIM your fool god "put in the right place at the right time" originally),
now seems unable to do the very thing you claim he did initially ?
If he has the power to do something, and does not, he's a total fraud, as a god.

I found a video of Everena.