(November 26, 2018 at 12:00 am)Everena Wrote:

(November 25, 2018 at 11:47 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: No, twins that evolved into bacteria. : WTF did you get twins from?!?

Clonality, now get to the point. What point are you trying to make with this article about twin bacteria?

Clones aren't twins. Nothing alike. You'd know that if you knew jack about bacterial reproduction. At least read the abstract before blithering on.

(November 25, 2018 at 11:45 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: 1: God Exists.
Yep.

2: God is All-Powerful, by definition. A limited "deity" is a logical contradiction.
Yep

3: God created everything.
No. God created this universe, this earth and our flesh. Our souls always have been/always will be.

4: Suffering exists. e.g.: Infant death, floods, volcanoes, 
YEP

5: From 3 and 4, God created suffering.
Nope. God is perfect and good and would never create anything bad. People created suffering with their own free will. 

6: All-powerful beings can always take another option. They do not have to settle for second best or accept necessary evil. They can always create a better option.
We all have to get better and stop causing so much pain to others in order to get rid of all the pain and suffering that exists here. This planet is for us and this is our challenge, not God's challenge.

7: God did not take a better option than creating suffering.
God did not create suffering, people created suffering by intentionally causing suffering to other people.

8: From 6 and 7, God needlessly created suffering.
False. People need to stop intentionally hurting others. We will continue to go through all the pain that we have intentionally caused to others until we learn to be better people who no longer cause others pain.

Conclusion: God is Malevolent.
False. God just wants us all to become better so we are deserving of an eternal paradise.

An all-loving, merciful, just Creator is incompatible with the evidence of our reality.
False. We are not all loving and merciful enough yet.

At least from the perspective of a human. Maybe this is nematode heaven.

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(November 26, 2018 at 12:04 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 25, 2018 at 11:59 pm)Everena Wrote: It's in every single article I posted to him. The brain was considered to warm, wet and noisy for delicate quantum processes. What he said was that I needed to prove that quantum vibrations occuring in microtubules in the brain was a recent discovery, after I said they did not know about them until late 2013/early 2014. That is when it exactly was proven and corroborated and both quantum coherence and quantum vibrations occuring brain microtubules were proven at that time.

Orch OR was harshly criticized from its inception,as the brain was considered too "warm, wet, and noisy" for seemingly delicate quantum processes. However, evidence has now shown warm quantum coherence in plant photosynthesis, bird brain navigation, our sense of smell, and brain microtubules.
 The recent discovery of warm temperature quantum vibrations in microtubules inside brain neurons by the research group led by Anirban Bandyopadhyay, PhD, at the National Institute of Material Sciences in Tsukuba, Japan (and now at MIT), corroborates the pair's theory and suggests that EEG rhythms also derive from deeper level microtubule vibrations. In addition, work from the laboratory of Roderick G. Eckenhoff, MD, at the University of Pennsylvania, suggests that anesthesia, which selectively erases  while sparing non-conscious brain activities, acts via microtubules in brain neurons.

https://phys.org/news/2014-01-discovery-...rates.html

https://www.scribd.com/document/31829521...sciousness

https://www.journals.elsevier.com/physic...vibrations

Repeating what didn't prove it the first time doesn't prove it simply because you have repeated it.

It's obvious you're too stupid to understand what they were saying by saying that it was too warm, wet, and noisy.  A fact which your repeating shit you don't understand does nothing to correct.

And no, that is not what he claimed.  Your claim was that, "no one knew there were quantum vibrations in our brain until 2014."  A claim you still haven't substantiated.  He disputed that, and you haven't provided any evidence that anybody thought there weren't quantum vibrations in the brain or in the microtubules..

Then I guess you can't read, can you? Every single article says exactly that.

Almost indiscernible from a CDF47 post, fancy that.

(November 26, 2018 at 12:05 am)Paleophyte Wrote:

(November 26, 2018 at 12:00 am)Everena Wrote: Clonality, now get to the point. What point are you trying to make with this article about twin bacteria?

Clones aren't twins. Nothing alike. You'd know that if you knew jack about bacterial reproduction. At least read the abstract before blithering on.

Clonality
the fact or condition of being genetically identical, as to a parent, sibling, or other biological source.

Synonyms for clone


[*]reproduction

[*]copy.

[*]twin.

[*]double.

[*]duplicate

(November 26, 2018 at 12:11 am)Everena Wrote: [quote pid='1858519' dateline='1543203956']
4: Suffering exists. e.g.: Infant death, floods, volcanoes, 
YEP

5: From 3 and 4, God created suffering.
Nope. God is perfect and good and would never create anything bad. People created suffering with their own free will. 

[/quote]

False. You can blame some of the infant mortality on humans and our stupidity, but who Created humans to be bastardly to one another. Oh, right, God.

And don't forget the floods, volcanoes, tsunamis, and that lovely little worm tat eats your eyeballs. God created them one and all. No human ever made a volcano erupt and you know it.

God needlessly created suffering.
God is malevolent.

(November 26, 2018 at 12:21 am)Paleophyte Wrote:

(November 26, 2018 at 12:11 am)Everena Wrote: [quote pid='1858519' dateline='1543203956']
4: Suffering exists. e.g.: Infant death, floods, volcanoes, 
YEP

5: From 3 and 4, God created suffering.
Nope. God is perfect and good and would never create anything bad. People created suffering with their own free will. 

False. You can blame some of the infant mortality on humans and our stupidity, but who Created humans to be bastardly to one another. Oh, right, God.

And don't forget the floods, volcanoes, tsunamis, and that lovely little worm tat eats your eyeballs. God created them one and all. No human ever made a volcano erupt and you know it.

God needlessly created suffering.
God is malevolent.
[/quote]

Only atheists believe in death. We believe in eternal life.

(November 26, 2018 at 12:20 am)Everena Wrote:

(November 26, 2018 at 12:05 am)Paleophyte Wrote: Clones aren't twins. Nothing alike. You'd know that if you knew jack about bacterial reproduction. At least read the abstract before blithering on.

Clonality
the fact or condition of being genetically identical, as to a parent, sibling, or other biological source.

Synonyms for clone


[*]reproduction

[*]copy.

[*]twin.

[*]double.

[*]duplicate

[*]

Nicely done, now read the second word in the title.

(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

(November 26, 2018 at 12:22 am)Everena Wrote: False. You can blame some of the infant mortality on humans and our stupidity, but who Created humans to be bastardly to one another. Oh, right, God.

And don't forget the floods, volcanoes, tsunamis, and that lovely little worm tat eats your eyeballs. God created them one and all. No human ever made a volcano erupt and you know it.

God needlessly created suffering.
God is malevolent.
Only atheists believe in death. We believe in eternal life.

But only we (Devout Pastafarians) will get it, such is the way of things, additionally now you're being deliberately stupid.

(November 26, 2018 at 12:22 am)Paleophyte Wrote:

(November 26, 2018 at 12:20 am)Everena Wrote: Clonality
the fact or condition of being genetically identical, as to a parent, sibling, or other biological source.

Synonyms for clone


[*]reproduction

[*]copy.

[*]twin.

[*]double.

[*]duplicate

[*]

Nicely done, now read the second word in the title.

[*]

Just get to the point. What point are you trying to make with the fucking clone bacteria article?

(November 26, 2018 at 12:22 am)Everena Wrote: Only atheists believe in death. We believe in eternal life.

Tell it to the church graveyards.

Suffering still exists even if you, hilariously, don't believe in death.

God is malevolent.