(November 27, 2018 at 3:25 am)Amarok Wrote: Right God just happened to make the creatures who look related look related without them being for mysterious reasons .

It's similar to automobile manufacturers that use the same platform for different vehicles.

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(November 27, 2018 at 3:25 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(November 27, 2018 at 3:24 am)CDF47 Wrote: They are designed similarly because they were designed from a similar plan.

Because your god is too stupid to come up with more originality?


No, they were designed similarly because evolution did the designing, bozo.

A blind process like evolution can't design anything.

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(November 27, 2018 at 3:25 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(November 27, 2018 at 3:24 am)CDF47 Wrote: They are designed similarly because they were designed from a similar plan.

Because your god is too stupid to come up with more originality?


No, they were designed similarly because evolution did the designing, bozo.

By the way, name calling from behind a keyboard is lame as hell.

(November 27, 2018 at 3:26 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(November 27, 2018 at 3:25 am)Amarok Wrote: Right God just happened to make the creatures who look related look related without them being for mysterious reasons .

It's similar to automobile manufacturers that use the same platform for different vehicles.

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Really, do cars fuck and give birth to slightly different cars?

(November 27, 2018 at 3:26 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(November 27, 2018 at 3:25 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Because your god is too stupid to come up with more originality?


No, they were designed similarly because evolution did the designing, bozo.

A blind process like evolution can't design anything.

No it can’t.  But nonetheless it can cause new things to come to be without designing it.

But infantile idiots like you who can’t envision complex processes of reality operating without anthropomorphizing it, just as children can’t imagine make belief characters represented by their dolls not talking to each other, also can’t comprehend any word or concept for its operation other than “designed”.   So we use the vocabulary tailored to your infantile comprehension to give you as much help as is possible, albeit clearly still far short of sufficient, to let you come as close as is within your powers to come, to a more accurate view of reality.

(November 27, 2018 at 3:26 am)CDF47 Wrote:

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(November 27, 2018 at 3:25 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Because your god is too stupid to come up with more originality?


No, they were designed similarly because evolution did the designing, bozo.

By the way, name calling from behind a keyboard is lame as hell.

Believing in the 21st century That reality needs a designer and the designer is a no good megalomaniacal derange carpenter who was mean to his mother and who also happen to be god is vastly lamer still.

Quote:It's similar to automobile manufacturers that use the same platform for different vehicles.

Cars don't reproduce and again this doesn't answer my comment

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Quote:A blind process like evolution can't design anything.

Yup because it's not designed

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Quote:By the way, name calling from behind a keyboard is lame as hell.

Uh huh whimper

(November 26, 2018 at 1:38 pm)Everena Wrote: God always has been and always will be.

Really? Can't you see the problem with the above statement?

Quote: And something like food being on this planet for all 8.7 million different species of life cannot be written off to chance or luck.

No, not chance or luck. Food exists by way of the same processes that we exist. Have a read up on how plant life was able to evolve more rapidly than animal life, and join the dots from there.

(November 27, 2018 at 5:58 am)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote:

(November 26, 2018 at 1:38 pm)Everena Wrote: God always has been and always will be.

Really? Can't you see the problem with the above statement?

Quote: And something like food being on this planet for all 8.7 million different species of life cannot be written off to chance or luck.

No, not chance or luck. Food exists by way of the same processes that we exist. Have a read up on how plant life was able to evolve more rapidly than animal life, and join the dots from there.

Isn't her arguments from incredulity great

(November 27, 2018 at 6:25 am)Amarok Wrote:

(November 27, 2018 at 5:58 am)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote: Really? Can't you see the problem with the above statement?


No, not chance or luck. Food exists by way of the same processes that we exist. Have a read up on how plant life was able to evolve more rapidly than animal life, and join the dots from there.

Isn't her arguments from incredulity great

They sure are

(November 27, 2018 at 12:49 am)Everena Wrote: Plants are not conscious life or living creatures

You think plants aren't alive?

Quote:Do you think it hurts an orange tree or an apple tree when their fruit falls to the ground and we it? Does it hurt a bush when we eat berries before they fall to the ground?

Fruit? No. Carrots. >>>Crunch, crunch, crunch<<< That's one dead carrot and the crunch means that it was still alive when you bit into it. Salad is murder.

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Quote:63% according to your dearly quoted Mr. Gallup.

No, it is 89% according to the Gallup poll from 3 years ago. Only 11% atheists in the world. Learn to read a poll. I am not even religious.

Poll: 11% atheist, 22% not religious, 63% religious, 4% did not respond. You can't claim that those 22% believe as you do. You have no basis for that.

And you are a very religious person. You believe in God and an afterlife. That makes you a believer.

Quote:Everena: No fool, people are causing suffering.

So does God. You can't blame humans for natural disasters or the carnivores. All the fault of your malevolent God.

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(November 27, 2018 at 1:03 am)Everena Wrote:

(November 27, 2018 at 12:47 am)Paleophyte Wrote: And you are rubbish about logic and math, which is why you have the wrong number and why your claims of mathematical impossibility are hilarious.

Nowhere in your linked Wikipedia article is 93% mentioned. You arrived at that number by taking the 7% your article cited and claiming all the rest as religious. Your friend Mr. Gallup says that you can't do that because there's a middle group of 22% that's neither confirmed atheist nor confirmed religious. They're just plain old not religious and don't really give a damn. Confirmed religious is 63%. 66% once you factor out people who didn't respond. The rest are non-believers. You get 2 out of 3 at best.

False. I am not even religious. And the poll regarding the atheist demographics already figured that all in. Read it. The Gallup poll just did not poll everyone and it is from 3 years ago.

No poll polls everybody. That's the point of a poll. That's why we call it a poll.

The Wikipedia article does not figure any of that in. It states how many are atheists and then you assumed that you could claim the other 93%. You can't.

You are very religious. You are a fervent believer. You just don't belong to a specific religion.

(November 27, 2018 at 8:36 am)Paleophyte Wrote:

(November 27, 2018 at 12:49 am)Everena Wrote: Plants are not conscious life or living creatures

You think plants aren't alive?

Quote:Do you think it hurts an orange tree or an apple tree when their fruit falls to the ground and we it? Does it hurt a bush when we eat berries before they fall to the ground?

Fruit? No. Carrots. >>>Crunch, crunch, crunch<<< That's one dead carrot and the crunch means that it was still alive when you bit into it. Salad is murder.

Quote:No, it is 89% according to the Gallup poll from 3 years ago. Only 11% atheists in the world. Learn to read a poll. I am not even religious.

Poll: 11% atheist, 22% not religious, 63% religious, 4% did not respond. You can't claim that those 22% believe as you do. You have no basis for that.

And you are a very religious person. You believe in God and an afterlife. That makes you a believer.

Quote:Everena: No fool, people are causing suffering.

So does God. You can't blame humans for natural disasters or the carnivores. All the fault of your malevolent God.

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(November 27, 2018 at 1:03 am)Everena Wrote: False. I am not even religious. And the poll regarding the atheist demographics already figured that all in. Read it. The Gallup poll just did not poll everyone and it is from 3 years ago.

No poll polls everybody. That's the point of a poll. That's why we call it a poll.

The Wikipedia article does not figure any of that in. It states how many are atheists and then you assumed that you could claim the other 93%. You can't.

You are very religious. You are a fervent believer. You just don't belong to a specific religion.

But Paleo you have to be "specific " and convince her she's wrong .

(November 27, 2018 at 2:41 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(November 26, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Then how do you account for the fact that we share 97% of our ERV with chimpanzees? ERV are Endogenous RetroViruses, viruses that inserted themselves into your DNA, got stuck there, and eventually were transmitted to the entire species. We share 97% of ours with the chimps, and that's the same virus in the same location with the same mutations and the same LTR "header" and "footer". Similarities of  ERV are also seen in other primates and more distantly related organisms, with decreasing similarity observed between more distantly related organisms.

This is precisely what the theory of common descent predicts. How do you account for it?

Similar design but totally different species.

ERV aren't part of any "design". They're fossil viruses stuck in your DNA.

It's true, you never see these two in the same room. What's the schtick? Is Everena your rugrat?

Almost there, guys!!! I’ve never seen a turd this long in the toilet before. We need to photograph it for evidence!