(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

(November 29, 2018 at 11:47 am)Amarok Wrote:

(November 29, 2018 at 11:34 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: I love this thread, It has it all;  Facts, delicious recipes, giant baconzillas, jazzercize, and Everena converted to Buddhism halfway through.

Glad you are having fun

Well, we have one(maybe two, socks notwithstanding) trolls that will keep bumping this thread for an eternity so I'm trying to make it somewhat enjoyable for the unfortunate souls trapped here as they continue to play chess with pigeons.

RAmen

(November 29, 2018 at 2:08 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Simple something...that's for sure.  

(November 29, 2018 at 2:05 pm)Everena Wrote: It is not absurd and this is very simple logic. You are deliberately not applying logic, because you don't want to believe in God. God exists though, regardless of what you may want to be true. How is the idea of dying and no longer ever existing again even appealing to you?

I, personally, don't give a shit.  Guess that doesn't really fit with your jesus freak line of nonsense, but oh well..huh?

I am not a Jesus freak, as you know. I do respect God and our purpose for being alive here. I love being alive, don't you? How could you ever want life to end? Sometimes I think atheists are all in a depression caused by either not being with the right person, or possibly caused by other traumatic events in their lives.

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(November 29, 2018 at 2:16 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

(November 29, 2018 at 11:47 am)Amarok Wrote: Glad you are having fun

Well, we have one(maybe two, socks notwithstanding) trolls that will keep bumping this thread for an eternity so I'm trying to make it somewhat enjoyable for the unfortunate souls trapped here as they continue to play chess with pigeons.

RAmen

This thread was started by CDF47 who is a Christian. No one is trapped here, and they are willingly debating these topics with us.

(November 29, 2018 at 2:25 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 29, 2018 at 2:08 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Simple something...that's for sure.  

I, personally, don't give a shit.  Guess that doesn't really fit with your jesus freak line of nonsense, but oh well..huh?

I am not a Jesus freak, as you know. I do respect God and our purpose for being alive here. I love being alive, don't you? How could you ever want life to end? Sometimes I think atheists are all in a depression caused by either not being with the right person, or possibly caused by other traumatic events in their lives.

LOL< jesus freak.
Give it a few more decades of mounting illness and injury, besides..you're the one ardently wishing that a god set this all up to free you from life.  You don't love life, you think that life is a super shitty soul mill made to intentionally fuck with us.....remember?

You're looking to fly off to others you know not of, rather than bear what ills you have. Because that's just who you are, I guess...you get everything backwards.

(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

(November 29, 2018 at 2:25 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 29, 2018 at 2:08 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Simple something...that's for sure.  

I, personally, don't give a shit.  Guess that doesn't really fit with your jesus freak line of nonsense, but oh well..huh?

I am not a Jesus freak, as you know. I do respect God and our purpose for being alive here. I love being alive, don't you? How could you ever want life to end? Sometimes I think atheists are all in a depression caused by either not being with the right person, or possibly caused by other traumatic events in their lives.

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(November 29, 2018 at 2:16 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Well, we have one(maybe two, socks notwithstanding) trolls that will keep bumping this thread for an eternity so I'm trying to make it somewhat enjoyable for the unfortunate souls trapped here as they continue to play chess with pigeons.

RAmen

This thread was started by CDF47 who is a Christian. No one is trapped here, and they are willingly debating these topics with us

Fact: The most pushups ever performed in one day was 46,001

(November 29, 2018 at 2:00 pm)Everena Wrote: So what? We have plenty of space and then some. And people are probably supposed to gather together in certain areas. 

(November 29, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Amarok Wrote: Ad hoc the fact there places that are uninhabitable spot serves as evidence against you claim . 

No it certainly does not. It is ridiculous and stupid argument. We have tons of space to live and we are supposed to be together. Just utter nonsense because really, you have no argument at all.


We can survive at high elevations in an airplane, and 2.2 million different species of life can survive under water. 

(November 29, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Amarok Wrote: Their are elevation that can naturally kill us appealing to a man made object some of which need to be specifically built so we don't die is just silly . And again we can't live underwater so this avoids his point 

Stop being so egocentric. We are not the only life on this planet. And what is silly is that you think this is even a valid argument. The fact that we even have brains and materials to build an airplane proves there's a God. And people have climbed Mount Everest. If breathing becomes difficult at 10 thousand feet, go back down the mountain. That's why we have brains.

There is plenty of habitable space on this planet that is not extemely hot or cold, so who cares?[/size]

(November 29, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Amarok Wrote: The fact more of the planet that are  uninhabitable again is evidence against your claim 

False. There is a plenty of space to live on this planet and most people never even attempt to live in 99% of they space available to them. Grip reality.


We share this planet with 7.77 million other species of life. Not everything that is here is here for just us. Don't take man made vitamins if you're worried about having a surplus of them.

(November 29, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Amarok Wrote: Once again this avoids the argument 

No, it doesn't. We have brains. The simplest animals on this planet know how to avoid things that aren't good for them.


I agree. The whole purpose of this planet very obviously is not just for us, since we share it with gazillions of animals[/size]

I would not call our planet hostile in any way, more like the provider of food, and medicinal plants and herbs, and water, and fire and electricity, and metals, and cotton etc etc. We are truly blessed. If don't like it, maybe you should move to some other planet[/size]

(November 29, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Amarok Wrote: None of this makes out planet not hostile considering we had to figure out how to utilize those things BECAUSE THE EARTH IS HOSTILE and bringing up other planets is irrelevant 

I have never encountered this hostile earth you are talking about. And we have brains. Ants with their tiny brains can survive on this planet. You just have no argument, so you grasp for whatever straws you think you have. No one thinks your arguments are valid except other atheists who like to pretend God doesn't exist. Spare us the idiocy.


That is wonderful. The big rock in your front yard still did not create the universe no matter how much you may want to pretend it did. Inanimate objects or "nothing" would not create a planet with conscious life, complex DNA, food and a million other useful things. You are deluding yourself. It is simply not possible.

(November 29, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Amarok Wrote: A bunch of assertions and repeating dogma 

No, it's called applying very simple logic.
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So a heap no counters 

Nope if the whole earth isn't habitable to all life thou it could have been makes no sense at all simply saying move or we have brains or  there are area's that we can live on  does not counter the argument.Nor does it make any sense for a god to create special ecosystems or even special creatures to live there. 

Nope the earth is harsh and we only developed to counter it .The fact  we have any of those resource makes no sense if their is a god. Why would we need any of those resources or developments ? Oh yes we need them because the earth is a hard place to live and we had to utilize them to live and the fact the planet does not seem harsh shows we succeeded to a degree . Oh and the fact other creatures have adapted other ways of living here does no refute my point .

Simply throwing the word logic around does not make it so  and snarling i have no argument well clearly false and i don't care who agrees with me .

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Quote:That is wonderful. The big rock in your front yard still did not create the universe no matter how much you may want to pretend it did. Inanimate objects or "nothing" would not create a planet with conscious life, complex DNA, food and a million other useful things. You are deluding yourself. It is simply not possible.

Assertions and straw men from a person who thinks a magic sky energy balls did it

(November 29, 2018 at 2:25 pm)Everena Wrote: I am not a Jesus freak, as you know. I do respect God and our purpose for being alive here. I love being alive, don't you? How could you ever want life to end? Sometimes I think atheists are all in a depression caused by either not being with the right person, or possibly caused by other traumatic events in their lives.

(November 29, 2018 at 2:31 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: LOL< jesus freak.

I do not believe Jesus is God. I would call myself a Christian-Hindu-Deist mix.

(November 29, 2018 at 2:31 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Give it a few more decades of mounting illness and injury, besides..you're the one ardently wishing that a god set this all up to free you from life.  You don't love life, you think that life is a super shitty soul mill made to intentionally fuck with us.....remember?
You're looking to fly off to others you know not of, rather than bear what ills you have.  Because that's just who you are, I guess...you get everything backwards.

That is not true at all. I love life and even in my most painful, darkest points in this life, I found things to love and appreciate about life. I think the ultimate goal is eternity in an incredible paradise far superior to this. However, I think life here is precious and intended to better us in numerous ways. I do believe hell is happening here, right before our eyes, so we are aware that there are consequences to our actions. It will get better here as people get better.

Quote:I am not a Jesus freak, as you know.

No one cares 

 

Quote:I do respect God and our purpose for being alive here.

Then you respect nothing

Quote: I love being alive, don't you? 

Yup 

Quote:How could you ever want life to end?

Because living forever could only be tedious 

Quote: Sometimes I think atheists are all in a depression caused by either not being with the right person, or possibly caused by other traumatic events in their lives.

Nope simply accepting the end and accepting the closure of things that is neither depression nor trauma and it's truly offensive you assume this .

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Quote:I think the ultimate goal is eternity in an incredible paradise far superior to this.

Then the ultimate goal is pointless and tedious . Now that's  depressing .

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Closure and resolution are better then paradise as paradise can only be a tedious and meaningless state .

(November 29, 2018 at 2:41 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 29, 2018 at 2:25 pm)Everena Wrote: I am not a Jesus freak, as you know. I do respect God and our purpose for being alive here. I love being alive, don't you? How could you ever want life to end? Sometimes I think atheists are all in a depression caused by either not being with the right person, or possibly caused by other traumatic events in their lives.

(November 29, 2018 at 2:31 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: LOL< jesus freak.

I do not believe Jesus is God. I would call myself a Christian-Hindu-Deist mix.

(November 29, 2018 at 2:31 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Give it a few more decades of mounting illness and injury, besides..you're the one ardently wishing that a god set this all up to free you from life.  You don't love life, you think that life is a super shitty soul mill made to intentionally fuck with us.....remember?
You're looking to fly off to others you know not of, rather than bear what ills you have.  Because that's just who you are, I guess...you get everything backwards.

That is not true at all. I love life and even in my most painful, darkest points in this life, I found things to love and appreciate about life. I think the ultimate goal is eternity in an incredible paradise far superior to this. However, I think life here is precious and intended to better us in numerous ways. I do believe hell is happening here, right before our eyes, so we are aware that there are consequences to our actions. It will get better here as people get better.

Jesus....freak.

That you can't see how your own comments are diametrically opposed to each other breath to breath is just more of the same everena problem we've had the happy coincidence of witnessing these last few hundred pages.   It's as if all the nerves in your intelligently designed dick have been removed..and so you don't realize when you're just stomping the piss out of the poor thing.

(November 29, 2018 at 2:44 pm)Amarok Wrote:

Quote:I am not a Jesus freak, as you know.

No one cares 

 

Quote:I do respect God and our purpose for being alive here.

Then you respect nothing

Quote: I love being alive, don't you? 

Yup 

Quote:How could you ever want life to end?

Because living forever could only be tedious 

Quote: Sometimes I think atheists are all in a depression caused by either not being with the right person, or possibly caused by other traumatic events in their lives.

Nope simply accepting the end and accepting the closure of things that is neither depression nor trauma and it's truly offensive you assume this .

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Quote:I think the ultimate goal is eternity in an incredible paradise far superior to this.

Then the ultimate goal is pointless and tedious . Now that's  depressing .

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Closure and resolution are better then paradise as paradise can only be a tedious and meaningless state .

I also suspect that the "think" part, like much of the rest of their posts, is bullshit.

Quote: I do believe hell is happening here, right before our eyes, so we are aware that there are consequences to our actions. It will get better here as people get better.

Nope we love on earth and thou very harsh it's not a hell and consequences make no sense if there is a god nor does the idea we need to be "better"

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(November 29, 2018 at 2:52 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(November 29, 2018 at 2:44 pm)Amarok Wrote: No one cares 

 
Then you respect nothing



Yup 



Because living forever could only be tedious 



Nope simply accepting the end and accepting the closure of things that is neither depression nor trauma and it's truly offensive you assume this .

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Then the ultimate goal is pointless and tedious . Now that's  depressing .

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Closure and resolution are better then paradise as paradise can only be a tedious and meaningless state .

I also suspect that the "think" part, like much of the rest of their posts, is bullshit.

Yup