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RE: If you're an Atheist, what comforts you?
December 4, 2018 at 12:19 pm
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(December 4, 2018 at 12:16 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: Identity and solidarity is based on stuff a lot more specific than that. My differences with atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, communists, primitive tribes, so on and so forth, outnumber any of our superficial commonalities.
......yeah, it's kindof the other way around, but I don't expect you to look that up, either. Clearly not your thing.
Quote:The purpose of my life is to bring glory to the Royalty. The purpose of many others is to get drunk on Friday night.
Yet another roadside bomb waiting for their shot at martrydom. How droll.
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RE: If you're an Atheist, what comforts you?
December 4, 2018 at 12:25 pm
Prove it by killing yourself or shut up? Really? I'll reserve any more comments.
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RE: If you're an Atheist, what comforts you?
December 4, 2018 at 12:31 pm
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It did bring out an explicit acknowledgement of commonality between our islamic ethno nationalist buddy and the "korean peasants" he was deriding...though...huh? Sometimes, especially with the densely religious..you have to cut straight through all the bullshit to get to the truth of a matter. Our desire to live, thrive, and see our plans come to fruition links us all in a profound and unbroken string of humanity that no superstition can argue against or compare itself with.
We sometimes fail to see that our own search for the next pay raise into six figures is not at all different from some guy scratching out a culvert with a stick to irrigate his failing crops. We focus on the superficiality of setting, place, time, culture...lol..race...religion. Each of these things no more than a pest biting at the ankles of our overwhelming and common humanity.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: If you're an Atheist, what comforts you?
December 4, 2018 at 12:36 pm
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(December 4, 2018 at 12:16 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: (December 4, 2018 at 11:57 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: If you don't have the goal of living and thriving and seeing your plans come to fruition, then I'd like you to prove it by killing yourself, here, and now. You can videotape your suicide, or livestream it for us.
Otherwise you can do a whole lot of shutting up.
Hmmmm...what a projection!
Every single organism is programmed to want to live and thrive in that life. There's nothing unique about that.
Identity and solidarity is based on stuff a lot more specific than that. My differences with atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, communists, primitive tribes, so on and so forth, outnumber any of our superficial commonalities.
The purpose of my life is to bring glory to the Royalty. The purpose of many others is to get drunk on Friday night.
Identity is based on what is the same, not on what is unique. Your complaint is without point. That you feel that identity needs to be based upon something more specific, in effect upon difference, simply shows that you're an irrational twat who tries to believe two contradictory things simultaneously, that identity is based on sameness and identity is based on difference.
Yeah, still waiting for you to prove you have nothing in common with a North Korean peasant by killing yourself. Put up or shut up.
Wait. You don't like getting drunk on Friday night? Apparently you don't have anything in common with the other Muslims who want it so bad that God made a law against it!
(December 4, 2018 at 12:25 pm)tackattack Wrote: Prove it by killing yourself or shut up? Really? I'll reserve any more comments.
If you don't have a point then it's probably just as well.
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RE: If you're an Atheist, what comforts you?
December 4, 2018 at 12:47 pm
(December 4, 2018 at 12:36 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Identity is based on what is the same, not on what is unique. Your complaint is without point. That you feel that identity needs to be based upon something more specific, in effect upon difference, simply shows that you're an irrational twat who tries to believe two contradictory things simultaneously, that identity is based on sameness and identity is based on difference. Identity is based on meaningful commonalities and similarities, not something superficial as we both need to eat and survive.
Why isn't the entire globe a single one world state if we're all the same as humans? Human nature is actually separatist, and distinct groups want to be separate and pursue their separate destinies. My own racial homeland was partitioned so that my narrower religious community could pursue its separate destiny. Our differences were too compelling to reconcile so we went our separate ways after an amicable divorce (thank you British for making it possible!)
Jo Wrote:Yeah, still waiting for you to prove you have nothing in common with a North Korean peasant by killing yourself. Put up or shut up.
Wait. You don't like getting drunk on Friday night? Apparently you don't have anything in common with the other Muslims who want it so bad that God made a law against it! For someone who keeps screaming "illogical fallacy" like a broken record, you sure commit them right left and center!
Is it necessary that every prohibitive law prohibits something people desperately want to do, and the point of its prohibition is just to deny people their wishes?
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RE: If you're an Atheist, what comforts you?
December 4, 2018 at 12:50 pm
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(December 4, 2018 at 12:47 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: (December 4, 2018 at 12:36 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Identity is based on what is the same, not on what is unique. Your complaint is without point. That you feel that identity needs to be based upon something more specific, in effect upon difference, simply shows that you're an irrational twat who tries to believe two contradictory things simultaneously, that identity is based on sameness and identity is based on difference. Identity is based on meaningful commonalities and similarities, not something superficial as we both need to eat and survive. Another easy experiment presents itself! Stop eating. See if you don't notice a less-than-superficial affinity for the starving peasant.
Quote:Why isn't the entire globe a single one world state if we're all the same as humans? Human nature is actually separatist, and distinct groups want to be separate and pursue their separate destinies. My own racial homeland was partitioned so that my narrower religious community could pursue its separate destiny. Our differences were too compelling to reconcile so we went our separate ways after an amicable divorce (thank you British for making it possible!)
Maybe because of the constant interference and petulant whining of religious ethno-nationalists like yourself...who would cut off their own nose to spite their face? Had the thought not occurred to you?
Human nature? What..are you a dumb fucking animal, forever destined to do whatever silly shit we used to do on account of how we've always done it? I mean..not even animals are -that- dumb. All you're indicating here is that you, personally, are incapable of learning. That's not human nature. That's a subversion of your human nature in service to you religious ethno-nationalist fiction.
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RE: If you're an Atheist, what comforts you?
December 4, 2018 at 1:22 pm
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(December 4, 2018 at 12:47 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: Jo Wrote:Yeah, still waiting for you to prove you have nothing in common with a North Korean peasant by killing yourself. Put up or shut up.
Wait. You don't like getting drunk on Friday night? Apparently you don't have anything in common with the other Muslims who want it so bad that God made a law against it! For someone who keeps screaming "illogical fallacy" like a broken record, you sure commit them right left and center!
Is it necessary that every prohibitive law prohibits something people desperately want to do, and the point of its prohibition is just to deny people their wishes?
Right. People drink because they don't want to. That's why it was necessary to forbid it, because people were doing things they didn't want to do in stunning numbers.
Ist it necessary? No, and I never said it was. It is however a plausible explanation, and thus supports my contention. What do you have as evidence that it wasn't?
The last time you accused me of committing a fallacy you ate dirt. Are you back for seconds so soon?
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RE: If you're an Atheist, what comforts you?
December 4, 2018 at 1:28 pm
Intoxicants are forbidden in our Religion because they are objectively bad.
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RE: If you're an Atheist, what comforts you?
December 4, 2018 at 1:29 pm
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IDK, I think that you could objectively use a drink. Sitting down with a korean peasant over a pint might help you to disabuse yourself of the idiocy you've expressed in thread. OTOH< you might just shout god is great and beat him to death with the glass while spouting off racial slurs.
You tell me. What kind of drunk do you imagine you would be?
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RE: If you're an Atheist, what comforts you?
December 4, 2018 at 1:29 pm
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(December 4, 2018 at 1:28 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: Intoxicants are forbidden in our Religion because they are objectively bad.
Yes, and God regularly forbids bad things that nobody would do otherwise if left to their own devices. That must be the source of the commandment, "Thou shalt not jump off a cliff." Your arguments are laughable.
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