(December 11, 2018 at 12:50 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(December 10, 2018 at 11:41 pm)Amarok Wrote: Let's go over this shall we 

Nothing to do with gods existence 


Has nothing to do with the existence of god only that bible and most religious texts have  yet to demonstrate themselves and thus are  indistinguishable from works of fiction  . This is not a positive statement that god doesn't exist . 

This clearly continues from the above the god of varied  religions remains undemonstrated and thus remains no less demonstrated then Jar Jar . This is not a positive statement that no gods exists .

Again clearly stating you can hate something  that does not exist  and says nothing about it's existence 

So this attempt fails

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We aren't a collective but I am confident speaking for other atheists those two things don't follow . We can not be a collective and I can be confident in the position of other people .

Nope just refuting you dishonest attempts at misrepresenting me . But if need to lie to preserve a narrative . Knock yourself out.

(December 11, 2018 at 12:54 am)Amarok Wrote: Nope just refuting you dishonest attempts at misrepresenting me . But if need to lie to preserve a narrative . Knock yourself out.

Do you expect me to believe YOU or my lying eyes?

Title if the thread: Do you miss God?

You stated: "Just the way I hate jar jar binks and he also likely doesn't exist."

'Also' implies you are making a comparison... please tell us whom you are referring to?

(December 11, 2018 at 1:17 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 12:54 am)Amarok Wrote: Nope just refuting you dishonest attempts at misrepresenting me . But if need to lie  to preserve a narrative . Knock yourself out.

Do you expect me to believe YOU or my lying eyes?

It's not your just you eyes that are lying

So you're gonna dodge the question?

(December 11, 2018 at 1:57 am)Huggy74 Wrote: So you're gonna dodge the question?

Pretty sure by rightly calling you dishonest I answered the question .

Thought so. It's ok buddy, the question was rhetorical...

No need to answer what I already know, you said I was dishonestly misrepresenting you, I was giving you a chance at clarifying what you meant.

Apparently you cant.

wyzas Wrote:I don't think it's the atheists that are calling it/them churches

Yes atheists are calling them churches.

wyzas Wrote:Explain your "American" references when referring to atheists

Scandinavian atheists and American atheists. I explained this already.

Rahn127 Wrote:A theist holds a belief that a god exists. An atheist does not hold this belief

Thanks I'll stick with that.

wyzas Wrote:Knowledge is usually defined as justified true belief. 
Are you seriously claiming all your beliefs are knowledge based by this definition?

No. I use the dictionary definition.

wyzas Wrote:You seem to be having trouble with the idea that a person can reasonably check both boxes: 
no, I hold no belief in any god; and no, I don't know if any gods actually exist

I didn't say that. I reject the claim that some people make which is agnosticism automatically equals atheism 

wyzas Wrote:Something tells me that you're not as agnostic as you claim.

A false accusation helps who... Not the atheist thats for sure

Abaddon-ire Wrote:Where's the beef?

There's no beef yet i'm just trying to understand the definitions first before i get into the beef.

wyzas Wrote:Somebody's being quite anal

Ok so no one should get anal if I call this an ideology or a belief or something in my future threads. I'll move on

wyzas Wrote:Got some kind of a bug up your butt?

Wow. Getting hostile over a simple question about definition. Good introduction to my next thread i think.

"Agnostic with Christian Values" from your bio is a fallacy.
You cherry pick which values apply to you. Unless of course you still keep slaves?
There is nothing Christian about our modern western values. The churches like to take credit for everything. EG, our morality comes from God!

If you truly are agnostic, the last places you would try to find "Truth" is the prepackaged (for mass consumption) off the shelf popular religions.
Unless you're already indoctrinated to look there first, which means you were never agnostic. Just a regular garden variety troll.

Before me is a jar of marbles.

The theist believes there's an even amount of marbles (and there's exactly 420 of 'em according to their particular religion).

I don't believe them as I haven't counted the marbles yet. That doesn't mean I believe the number of marbles is odd.

I just don't know.

I think you'll find most here are the same way as far as atheism goes.

We lack a belief in the marble count being even, and there being exactly 420. That is the only thing we have in common.

What else an a-evenmarbleist believes is their own perogative. Some a-evenmarbleists will take an active position and claim there isn't an even number of marbles, others might form church-like structures with their own doctrines. That isn't to say all a-evenmarbleists are the same way.

Nakara, you're being logically way too generous. They're actually showing us an EMPTY jar of marbles and telling us there are exactly 420 marbles in there.

God is based on so many nested assumptions, you really need to drink lots of koolaid to glaze over them all...

We atheists are still looking at an empty jar and scratching our heads...
Huggy thinks we all belong to a hive mind... Yeah, because we all exercise the same logical common sense.