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RE: Make Atheist Forums Great Again (Part 1)
December 11, 2018 at 9:39 pm
(December 11, 2018 at 9:33 pm)Aliza Wrote: (December 11, 2018 at 9:00 pm)Shell B Wrote: Yes.
Okay, so "Damn Catholics" is still okay on the main forum but "Catholics are fucktards" will be permitted in R'lyeh?
That doesn't seem like it will go far enough to inspire measurable change.
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RE: Make Atheist Forums Great Again (Part 1)
December 11, 2018 at 9:43 pm
Hmmm...so is this a move to heavier moderation in some instances?
I am still trying to get the feel of the forum and have to admit to often being confused as to who and what are acceptable and who and what are not.
I am not sure how much I want to censor myself or how much I am expected to.
Of course the decision is up to those in charge, I don't challenge that at all. Just wondering if I want to analyze every word I consider typing out for fear that I will cross a line or lines.
More observation is needed.
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RE: Make Atheist Forums Great Again (Part 1)
December 11, 2018 at 9:43 pm
(December 11, 2018 at 9:33 pm)Aliza Wrote: (December 11, 2018 at 9:00 pm)Shell B Wrote: Yes.
Okay, so "Damn Catholics" is still okay on the main forum but "Catholics are fucktards" will be permitted in R'lyeh?
That doesn't seem like it will go far enough to inspire measurable change.
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RE: Make Atheist Forums Great Again (Part 1)
December 11, 2018 at 9:44 pm
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RE: Make Atheist Forums Great Again (Part 1)
December 11, 2018 at 9:45 pm
(December 11, 2018 at 9:33 pm)Aliza Wrote: (December 11, 2018 at 9:00 pm)Shell B Wrote: Yes.
Okay, so "Damn Catholics" is still okay on the main forum but "Catholics are fucktards" will be permitted in R'lyeh?
That doesn't seem like it will go far enough to inspire measurable change.
To be clear, R'lyeh is not visible to non-members.
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RE: Make Atheist Forums Great Again (Part 1)
December 11, 2018 at 9:48 pm
(December 11, 2018 at 9:43 pm)anjele Wrote: Hmmm...so is this a move to heavier moderation in some instances?
I am still trying to get the feel of the forum and have to admit to often being confused as to who and what are acceptable and who and what are not.
I am not sure how much I want to censor myself or how much I am expected to.
Of course the decision is up to those in charge, I don't challenge that at all. Just wondering if I want to analyze every word I consider typing out for fear that I will cross a line or lines.
More observation is needed.
You don’t really have to censor yourself. We are not allowing slurs in thread titles on the main forum. But if you feel like you must use a slur in a thread title you can always post in r’lyeh or however you spell it.
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RE: Make Atheist Forums Great Again (Part 1)
December 11, 2018 at 9:51 pm
(December 11, 2018 at 9:48 pm)Losty Wrote: (December 11, 2018 at 9:43 pm)anjele Wrote: Hmmm...so is this a move to heavier moderation in some instances?
I am still trying to get the feel of the forum and have to admit to often being confused as to who and what are acceptable and who and what are not.
I am not sure how much I want to censor myself or how much I am expected to.
Of course the decision is up to those in charge, I don't challenge that at all. Just wondering if I want to analyze every word I consider typing out for fear that I will cross a line or lines.
More observation is needed.
You don’t really have to censor yourself. We are not allowing slurs in thread titles on the main forum. But if you feel like you must use a slur in a thread title you can always post in r’lyeh or however you spell it. I think you know me well enough to know I don't tend to use slurs...what I am wondering is how far this will go since this is the first part of the changes.
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RE: Make Atheist Forums Great Again (Part 1)
December 11, 2018 at 9:53 pm
(December 11, 2018 at 9:51 pm)anjele Wrote: (December 11, 2018 at 9:48 pm)Losty Wrote: You don’t really have to censor yourself. We are not allowing slurs in thread titles on the main forum. But if you feel like you must use a slur in a thread title you can always post in r’lyeh or however you spell it. I think you know me well enough to know I don't tend to use slurs...what I am wondering is how far this will go since this is the first part of the changes.
Stay tuned. We're doing cliffhangers like sitcoms in the 90's baybay.
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RE: Make Atheist Forums Great Again (Part 1)
December 11, 2018 at 9:57 pm
(December 11, 2018 at 7:02 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (December 11, 2018 at 6:16 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: There's a difference? That seems to involve some mighty fine and politically correct judgement.
Calling an idea "stupid" isn't the best way to critique something, but ultimately it's a relatively tame expression. Calling an idea "fucking stupid" is less desirable, but still, "fucking" just emphasizes the stupidity you are trying to convey.
Calling an idea "retarded" is literally using a slur for mentally disabled people. So yeah, there's a big difference.
(December 11, 2018 at 6:25 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Probably already addressed but I assume thread titles such as "Why Xtianity is so stupid" or "the inanity of xtianity" would still be ruled out? (Sorry still catching up.)
I would say both of those would be allowed. The emphasis of the rule is really on "slurs". "Stupid" and "Inane" are perfectly valid criticisms of ideas; of course they both should be expanded on. Saying "Why Christianity is so retarded" would be disallowed due to the use of the slur.
There are some words which are always slurs (e.g. retarded). There are some words which are slurs in context (e.g. retard). There are some words which are slurs when you purposefully apply them to people, but not when they are applied to ideas (e.g. stupid).
Calling a particular idea stupid is one thing but to characterize any and all facets of Christianity as stupid would require a great deal of explaining. Otherwise, how is that any different than trashing an entire group of people. Consider in the political realm how the same sweeping condemnation of conservatism or liberalism would come off sounding. Wouldn't it become a condemnation of an entire group of people without a narrowed target of criticism along with adequate support for making that case?
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RE: Make Atheist Forums Great Again (Part 1)
December 11, 2018 at 9:58 pm
(December 11, 2018 at 9:51 pm)anjele Wrote: (December 11, 2018 at 9:48 pm)Losty Wrote: You don’t really have to censor yourself. We are not allowing slurs in thread titles on the main forum. But if you feel like you must use a slur in a thread title you can always post in r’lyeh or however you spell it. I think you know me well enough to know I don't tend to use slurs...what I am wondering is how far this will go since this is the first part of the changes.
I just meant a you in general for the second part. I don’t think we are doing anything drastic, i honestly think even with the changes it should be business as usual for most people imo
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