Quote:Now this is a clear example of taking quotes out of context.

Nope 

Quote: I'm clearly reply to what someone else said but you edited out the context, heck you even edited out the little green arrow that directs you to the original post.

Nope I simply quoted what you said 

Quote:And you guys constantly complain about me "quote mining" though I've never done any of the above.

Because you do 

Quote:After looking back at Amarok other posts, he appears to only do this to posts from theists.

Bullshit 


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Derp.....derp derp.

(December 13, 2018 at 11:15 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(December 13, 2018 at 11:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Thread title: Is atheism a belief?

I've clearly shown that 'ism' denotes a system or ideology, to try and claim it means a 'condition' in this case does not apply because  in reference to a person a 'condition' is a physical state; therefore one can indeed have atheistic ideologies, if not then atheistic religions cannot exist.

So what else do I need to say? Are you attempting to derail the conversation?

A medical dictionary, Huggy?  Really?

It's relevant is you want to claim atheism is a "condition", someone even went so far as to compare it with an ACTUAL medical condition, so whats your objection?

It's not athe-ism, it's a-theism. Someone else pointed this out earlier in fact.

(December 13, 2018 at 11:18 pm)Amarok Wrote:

Quote:After looking back at Amarok other posts, he appears to only do this to posts from theists.

Bullshit 


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Would you like me to provide evidence?

(December 13, 2018 at 11:17 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(December 13, 2018 at 11:14 pm)Amarok Wrote: 1. Nope you have done no such thing the ISM does not denote this 

2. Nope a state or condition can be non physical state or a state of belief 

3. Nope with they above their are no atheist ideologies s the ISM is a state or condition 

4. Yup their atheistic religions end of story

once again...


A doctrine is a belief, and a belief is NOT a condition...

Therefore trying to compare 'atheism' with 'albinism' like someone tried to do earlier, is just asinine.

Nope a condition of state once again appealing to dictionary fails you not all conditions are physical 

Nope it's spot on

Therefore atheism remain not a doctrine or idealology

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(December 13, 2018 at 11:27 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(December 13, 2018 at 11:18 pm)Amarok Wrote: Bullshit 


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Would you like me to provide evidence?

By all means

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Quote:It's relevant is you want to claim atheism is a "condition", someone even went so far as to compare it with an ACTUAL medical condition, so whats your objection?

Yup it's condition or state of none belief and yes a medical condition is still a condition

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Quote:It's relevant is you want to claim atheism is a "condition", someone even went so far as to compare it with an ACTUAL medical condition, so whats your objection?

Yup it's condition or state of none belief and yes a medical condition is still a condition

(December 13, 2018 at 11:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Thread title: Is atheism a belief?

I've clearly shown that 'ism' denotes a system or ideology, to try and claim it means a 'condition' in this case does not apply because  in reference to a person a 'condition' is a physical state; therefore one can indeed have atheistic ideologies, if not then atheistic religions cannot exist.

Yes the title is : Is atheism a belief?
And yet you seem preoccupied with the word "ism"

-ism is a suffix in many English words, originally derived from the Ancient Greek suffix -ισμός (-ismós), and reaching English through the Latin -ismus, and the French -isme.

[1] It means "taking side with" or "imitation of", and is often used to describe philosophies, theories, religions, social movements, artistic movements and behaviors.
[2] The suffix "-ism" is neutral and therefore bears no connotations associated with any of the many ideologies it identifies;
.....such determinations can only be informed by public opinion regarding specific ideologies.

Words ending in ism are often used to describe philosophies, theories, religions, social movements, artistic movements and behaviors.
The key word is often, not always.

Just because a word ends in ism doesn't automatically make it a theory or a philosophy or a religion or even a behavior.
I don't think you would describe atheism as an artistic movement, but according to the ism that you want to go by, it MUST be one.

And I'm telling you NO, it doesn't need to be one.
Words have meaning and the meaning of the word atheism is someone who doesn't hold the belief that a god exists.

Theism is a religion. It's not a behavior, nor is it an artistic movement. I wouldn't call it a theory either.

Atheism is recognized as a word with a particular definition.
Atheists are folks who are diverse in thought and rationality. The only thing they have in common is that they don't hold a belief that a god exists.
That's all.

There are some atheists who believe in ghosts and goblins and leprechauns.

You are cherry picking the end of a word and trying to make it into something it's not.

And you're doing it on purpose.

Atheism is not a belief and you already know that. You enjoy trying to debate something that doesn't need to be debated.

(December 13, 2018 at 11:27 pm)Grandizer Wrote: It's not athe-ism, it's a-theism. Someone else pointed this out earlier in fact.

But it's not, that word has a prefix and a suffix attached to the root word of theos...

Even if your trying to claim "a-theism"; If theism is an ideology based on a god the a-theism is a ideology based on no god.

I don't see the difference...