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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 22, 2018 at 8:58 am
(This post was last modified: December 22, 2018 at 9:03 am by Bucky Ball.)
Quote:No, you have to believe it in the heart. God reads the heart. Then also confess it with your lips. God's people are saved by accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. They love God and neighbor. They are sinners but they work on it and care about it.
You still don't get it. They CAN'T believe anything they seriously believe to be total crap nonsense. They HONESTLY don't believe it. It's not like turning on a faucet.
More proof you don't get what intellectual honesty means. If your gods "read the heart", they KNOW some do not buy into the religious shit.
The Christian position is : "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
They have not been given the gift, and don't buy into your crap position about codes. Evolutionary biologists have proposed pathways for the evolution of DNA ... and YOU have never once even commented on why the proposed chemical processes could not work. You are INCOMPETENT and too ignorant of Biochemistry to even begin to discuss this subject.
No one says DNA/RNA could assemble itself ... your straw-man is such an obvious fallacy and obvious attempt to evade providing a real answer. Why ? Because you are too ignorant of chemistry to even begin discussing the topic.
You are incapable of discussing what is in this link, in detail.
https://www.news.gatech.edu/2013/12/23/n...origin-rna
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 22, 2018 at 10:16 am
(This post was last modified: December 22, 2018 at 10:21 am by T0 Th3 M4X.)
(December 22, 2018 at 8:46 am)LastPoet Wrote: Posterboy for the religion. CDF does more for atheists than for theists. Not that it matters, if one is satisfied with vacuous words and conjecture.
Pandering doesn't win arguments/debates.
(December 22, 2018 at 8:58 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Quote:No, you have to believe it in the heart. God reads the heart. Then also confess it with your lips. God's people are saved by accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. They love God and neighbor. They are sinners but they work on it and care about it.
You still don't get it. They CAN'T believe anything they seriously believe to be total crap nonsense. They HONESTLY don't believe it. It's not like turning on a faucet.
More proof you don't get what intellectual honesty means. If your gods "read the heart", they KNOW some do not buy into the religious shit.
The Christian position is : "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
They have not been given the gift, and don't buy into your crap position about codes. Evolutionary biologists have proposed pathways for the evolution of DNA ... and YOU have never once even commented on why the proposed chemical processes could not work. You are INCOMPETENT and too ignorant of Biochemistry to even begin to discuss this subject.
No one says DNA/RNA could assemble itself ... your straw-man is such an obvious fallacy and obvious attempt to evade providing a real answer. Why ? Because you are too ignorant of chemistry to even begin discussing the topic.
You are incapable of discussing what is in this link, in detail.
https://www.news.gatech.edu/2013/12/23/n...origin-rna
"Proposed pathways", which means nothing. He doesn't have to show isn't feasible. You need to show that it's factual. Why would he be responsible for it?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 22, 2018 at 11:07 am
(December 22, 2018 at 10:16 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: (December 22, 2018 at 8:58 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: You still don't get it. They CAN'T believe anything they seriously believe to be total crap nonsense. They HONESTLY don't believe it. It's not like turning on a faucet.
More proof you don't get what intellectual honesty means. If your gods "read the heart", they KNOW some do not buy into the religious shit.
The Christian position is : "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
They have not been given the gift, and don't buy into your crap position about codes. Evolutionary biologists have proposed pathways for the evolution of DNA ... and YOU have never once even commented on why the proposed chemical processes could not work. You are INCOMPETENT and too ignorant of Biochemistry to even begin to discuss this subject.
No one says DNA/RNA could assemble itself ... your straw-man is such an obvious fallacy and obvious attempt to evade providing a real answer. Why ? Because you are too ignorant of chemistry to even begin discussing the topic.
You are incapable of discussing what is in this link, in detail.
https://www.news.gatech.edu/2013/12/23/n...origin-rna
"Proposed pathways", which means nothing. He doesn't have to show isn't feasible. You need to show that it's factual. Why would he be responsible for it?
The pathways and research on the subject (some of it done by Nobel laureates in the filed) are posted IN THIS thread ... just because he's too fucking lazy and ignorant to read and discuss them, doesn't relieve him (or YOU) from the responsibility of doing more than making ignorant assertions and stupid comments FAR outside the consensus in the field. Either discuss IN DETAIL what's wrong with this chemistry, or STFU.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 22, 2018 at 12:06 pm
(December 22, 2018 at 12:50 am)Rahn127 Wrote: CD - Your fantasy god is the self proclaimed creator of evil.
He's the ultimate serial killer.
Serial killer with a plan to kill more people.
And somehow, I don't know how, but you think that's good ?
The Lord gives life and can take life away at His will. They are going to a better place than this.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 22, 2018 at 12:07 pm
Prove it.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 22, 2018 at 12:11 pm
(This post was last modified: December 22, 2018 at 12:14 pm by CDF47.)
(December 22, 2018 at 8:58 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Quote:No, you have to believe it in the heart. God reads the heart. Then also confess it with your lips. God's people are saved by accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. They love God and neighbor. They are sinners but they work on it and care about it.
You still don't get it. They CAN'T believe anything they seriously believe to be total crap nonsense. They HONESTLY don't believe it. It's not like turning on a faucet.
More proof you don't get what intellectual honesty means. If your gods "read the heart", they KNOW some do not buy into the religious shit.
The Christian position is : "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
They have not been given the gift, and don't buy into your crap position about codes. Evolutionary biologists have proposed pathways for the evolution of DNA ... and YOU have never once even commented on why the proposed chemical processes could not work. You are INCOMPETENT and too ignorant of Biochemistry to even begin to discuss this subject.
No one says DNA/RNA could assemble itself ... your straw-man is such an obvious fallacy and obvious attempt to evade providing a real answer. Why ? Because you are too ignorant of chemistry to even begin discussing the topic.
You are incapable of discussing what is in this link, in detail.
https://www.news.gatech.edu/2013/12/23/n...origin-rna
The proof is in the information for the millionth time. Everyone fails to address this adequately. No one can explain where the information bearing properties of DNA come from.
(December 22, 2018 at 11:07 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: (December 22, 2018 at 10:16 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: "Proposed pathways", which means nothing. He doesn't have to show isn't feasible. You need to show that it's factual. Why would he be responsible for it?
The pathways and research on the subject (some of it done by Nobel laureates in the filed) are posted IN THIS thread ... just because he's too fucking lazy and ignorant to read and discuss them, doesn't relieve him (or YOU) from the responsibility of doing more than making ignorant assertions and stupid comments FAR outside the consensus in the field. Either discuss IN DETAIL what's wrong with this chemistry, or STFU.
I'd like to see your post of Jack take on Dr. Stephen C. Meyer in a debate. Every debate I have seen Dr. Meyer in it was a landslide win for him against atheist scientists.
(December 22, 2018 at 10:16 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: (December 22, 2018 at 8:46 am)LastPoet Wrote: Posterboy for the religion. CDF does more for atheists than for theists. Not that it matters, if one is satisfied with vacuous words and conjecture.
Pandering doesn't win arguments/debates.
(December 22, 2018 at 8:58 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: You still don't get it. They CAN'T believe anything they seriously believe to be total crap nonsense. They HONESTLY don't believe it. It's not like turning on a faucet.
More proof you don't get what intellectual honesty means. If your gods "read the heart", they KNOW some do not buy into the religious shit.
The Christian position is : "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
They have not been given the gift, and don't buy into your crap position about codes. Evolutionary biologists have proposed pathways for the evolution of DNA ... and YOU have never once even commented on why the proposed chemical processes could not work. You are INCOMPETENT and too ignorant of Biochemistry to even begin to discuss this subject.
No one says DNA/RNA could assemble itself ... your straw-man is such an obvious fallacy and obvious attempt to evade providing a real answer. Why ? Because you are too ignorant of chemistry to even begin discussing the topic.
You are incapable of discussing what is in this link, in detail.
https://www.news.gatech.edu/2013/12/23/n...origin-rna
"Proposed pathways", which means nothing. He doesn't have to show isn't feasible. You need to show that it's factual. Why would he be responsible for it?
That's the truth.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 22, 2018 at 12:15 pm
(December 22, 2018 at 12:11 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The proof is in the information for the millionth time.
I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 22, 2018 at 12:16 pm
(This post was last modified: December 22, 2018 at 2:03 pm by Bucky Ball.)
Quote:The proof is in the information for the millionth time. Everyone fails to address this adequately. No one can explain where the information bearing properties of DNA come from.
They have, again and again, including myself in the post above.
You just don't want to hear what you don't want to hear.
You position is held by a tiny minority.
You are so ignorant of basic chemistry you are unable to even understand what you're looking at.
You have no "proof". DNA doesn't "prove heaven". If it did, you would need no faith.
Matthew 16:4
A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah." Jesus then left them and went away.
Have fun with your sign. LOL
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 22, 2018 at 3:23 pm
(December 22, 2018 at 6:35 am)CDF47 Wrote: Those scholars are atheist based.
(December 20, 2018 at 11:37 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: Lame excuse on your part. It also doesn't change the fact that you're an intellectual illiterate with a closed mind who dishonestly ignores whatever scholarly evidence you find inconvenient, and you're completely incapable of considering the idea that you might be wrong. It is also evident by now that you're not here to discuss The Book of Daniel in order to conduct an honest pursuit of the truth. You're only here to proselytize.
These are just some of the impartial, fully-qualified biblical scholars whose books I have in my private library. All have Ph.D.'s in historical and divinity studies. Tell us which ones are atheists:
Louis E. Hartman
Alexander Di Lella
John J. Collins
Frank Leslie Cross
Philip Davies
Dell Chant
Jacques Doukhan
James D. Dunn
Malcolm Godden
Lester L. Grabbe
Ramon Hammer
Victor H. Matthews
I'd have to Google search each one. Can you tell me?
Of course not. My point here is that you have no idea what you're talking about and you're just making up excuses on the fly in order to avoid the evidence brought against your unlikely claims. Go ahead, Mr. Know-it-All, tell us which of the above scholars are atheists. Then you can explain to us what you mean by "atheist based" and why it has any bearing on the historical accuracy of their work. And when you get done with them, I've got more than three dozen more fully-qualified biblical scholars for you to try to discredit.
You see, I don't have to prove you to be ignorant and intellectually dishonest. I'm going let you prove that to us all by yourself.
As long as you keep making grandiose claims with no evidence to back them up, you're going to get called out for it.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 22, 2018 at 3:34 pm
(December 22, 2018 at 10:16 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: (December 22, 2018 at 8:46 am)LastPoet Wrote: Posterboy for the religion. CDF does more for atheists than for theists. Not that it matters, if one is satisfied with vacuous words and conjecture.
Pandering doesn't win arguments/debates.
(December 22, 2018 at 8:58 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: You still don't get it. They CAN'T believe anything they seriously believe to be total crap nonsense. They HONESTLY don't believe it. It's not like turning on a faucet.
More proof you don't get what intellectual honesty means. If your gods "read the heart", they KNOW some do not buy into the religious shit.
The Christian position is : "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
They have not been given the gift, and don't buy into your crap position about codes. Evolutionary biologists have proposed pathways for the evolution of DNA ... and YOU have never once even commented on why the proposed chemical processes could not work. You are INCOMPETENT and too ignorant of Biochemistry to even begin to discuss this subject.
No one says DNA/RNA could assemble itself ... your straw-man is such an obvious fallacy and obvious attempt to evade providing a real answer. Why ? Because you are too ignorant of chemistry to even begin discussing the topic.
You are incapable of discussing what is in this link, in detail.
https://www.news.gatech.edu/2013/12/23/n...origin-rna
"Proposed pathways", which means nothing. He doesn't have to show isn't feasible. You need to show that it's factual. Why would he be responsible for it?
I did ask you some follow up questions. Not sure if you missed my post.
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