Cunt is too nice of a description for these worthless fucking morons!

The Interstate Commerce Clause in the US Constitution, and the plethora of SCOTUS decisions about it, has much to do with it.

Keep in mind that the court's ruling in Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, 584 U.S. ___ (2018), 138 S. Ct. 1719; 201 L. Ed. 2d 35 (2018) was extremely narrow. The court ruled the Colorado state agency acted improperly by exhibiting extreme bias. The other constitutional issues raised in the appeal were not addressed by the court.

(December 29, 2018 at 3:43 pm)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote:

(December 29, 2018 at 1:37 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: In a recorded vote of 7-2, the Supreme Court ruled differently.  The bakery was vindicated and there's no possible legal recourse against the bakery in that case.  Next.

Yeah but... Baker, people who are judges, fundamental Christians... Cunts or what?

So everybody has to agree with you?  If not, call them names.  Got it.

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(December 29, 2018 at 4:28 pm)sdelsolray Wrote: The Interstate Commerce Clause in the US Constitution, and the plethora of SCOTUS decisions about it, has much to do with it.

Keep in mind that the court's ruling in Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, 584 U.S. ___ (2018), 138 S. Ct. 1719; 201 L. Ed. 2d 35 (2018) was extremely narrow.  The court ruled the Colorado state agency acted improperly by exhibiting extreme bias.  The other constitutional issues raised in the appeal were not addressed by the court.

I read what Robert's said about the case, but that doesn't change that they ruled heavily in favor of the bakery.  There is no legal recourse against them in that case.  Once it hits the Supreme Court, the only ones who can retry the case are the Supreme Court, and they have no legal obligation to do so.   They don't even have to hear cases.  They can simply dismiss an appeal.  So the odds of the Supreme Court reconsidering are floating right around 0 percent.  The cases the court has retried, and there are only a handful, were older cases with different justices.

Slow down max, that .25 watt bulb of yours might just blow.

I wonder if OP keeps up this same energy when business owners ask MAGA-hat-wearing patrons to leave their establishments.

Look. I accept that atheists live in the world. You are part of our society.

But I really can't see why you have to force Christians to follow your dictates.

There is a sweet old woman in my town. Her husband's dead and her children have all moved out.

She bakes the best pastries in town. Sweet chocolate cookies, a whole bushel of Pecan and Peach pies, and gooey molasses sweet bread.

She volunteers at church, she takes care of stray kittens and puppies, and regularly bakes cakes and cookies for our men and women in Afghanistan. She says she thinks of them as her children. Her Own children!

But no. You people wouldn't much like her. Sweet old Maybell Brown loves God, loves family, and loves the South.

She always  believes America is a Christian Nation, and well the golden rule should be the law of the land.

She believes in propriety, decency, and honor. I love that old woman. If she knew about the manner and character of women I have...associated with in the past.. .and the thoughts I actually have had about attractive women...well ...lets just say Id be ashamed to be around her..and hope to God she'd forgive me....or think of me in a charitable light.

And this woman.. this barbaric.... uncivilized woman... has the temerity to believe that marriage is a sacred institution  between one man and one woman! And no, she'd never bake a cake for a gay couple. She just wouldn't..because she doesn't believe the lifestyle is right or proper.

But..but Im sure if they knew of her the ACLU and American Atheists would come at her with knives drawn. Well... Ill let you atheists know that there are parts of America... that will resist your way of telling us what to do.

There are true blue, all American country cooking values that still exist. And I promise you..they are going nowhere!

(December 29, 2018 at 1:37 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 29, 2018 at 4:04 am)Amarok Wrote: Because you don't have the right to deny service to people based on your bronze age superstitions . Your business isn't a church .

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And nope it doesn't matter if it's making a specific cake or not . If you willing to do the same event for straight couple or the same service your discriminating if you'll do the contrary for a gay couple .

In a recorded vote of 7-2, the Supreme Court ruled differently.  The bakery was vindicated and there's no possible legal recourse against the bakery in that case.  Next.

The courts are not always right

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Quote:Look. I accept that atheists live in the world. You are part of our society.

Yup

Quote:But I really can't see why you have to force Christians to follow your dictates.

It's not our dictates it's what any society would do 

Quote:There is a sweet old woman in my town. Her husband's dead and her children have all moved out.

No one cares 

Quote:She bakes the best pastries in town. Sweet chocolate cookies, a whole bushel of Pecan and Peach pies, and gooey molasses sweet bread.

Your appeals to emotion are worthless 

Quote:She volunteers at church, she takes care of stray kittens and puppies, and regularly bakes cakes and cookies for our men and women in Afghanistan. She says she thinks of them as her children. Her Own children!

Your appeals to emotion are worthless 

Quote:But no. You people wouldn't much like her. Sweet old Maybell Brown loves God, loves family, and loves the South.

Your appeals to emotion are worthless 

Quote:She always  believes America is a Christian Nation, and well the golden rule should be the law of the land.

Then she's wrong 

Quote:She believes in propriety, decency, and honor. I love that old woman. If she knew about the manner and character of women I have...associated with in the past.. .and the thoughts I actually have had about attractive women...well ...lets just say Id be ashamed to be around her..and hope to God she'd forgive me....or think of me in a charitable light.

Your appeals to emotion are worthless 

Quote:And this woman.. this barbaric.... uncivilized woman... has the temerity to believe that marriage is a sacred institution  between one man and one woman! And no, she'd never bake a cake for a gay couple. She just wouldn't..because she doesn't believe the lifestyle is right or proper.

Her beliefs are 

Quote:But..but Im sure if they knew of her the ACLU and American Atheists would come at her with knives drawn. Well... Ill let you atheists know that there are parts of America... that will resist your way of telling us what to do.

Yup you will cling to the theocratic  delusions and you fade

There are true blue, all American country cooking values that still exist. And I promise you..they are going nowhere!

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Quote:I read what Robert's said about the case, but that doesn't change that they ruled heavily in favor of the bakery. 

Actually it changes the whole case

(December 30, 2018 at 12:21 am)ResoluteBaptist Wrote: Look. I accept that atheists live in the world. You are part of our society.

But I really can't see why you have to force Christians to follow your dictates.

Is it usually atheists trying to legalize their disbelief or christians trying to legalize their believes onto others?

(December 30, 2018 at 1:55 am)Deesse23 Wrote:

(December 30, 2018 at 12:21 am)ResoluteBaptist Wrote: Look. I accept that atheists live in the world. You are part of our society.

But I really can't see why you have to force Christians to follow your dictates.

Is it usually atheists trying to legalize their disbelief or christians trying to legalize their believes onto others?

Not at all.  I don't mind atheists, but I get sick of the "nutty" atheists protesting everything.  Go be happy atheists without imposing your personal beliefs on everybody else or trying to invalidate others and their beliefs.  If it's not complaining, it's copying.

"Hey, church is stupid, so let's go make our own, so we have a place to complain."
"Look, the churches have tax exemptions.  Let's go complain about them having it and demand equal exemptions."
"Oh no, someone prayed in a public park.  Let's go interfere with their pray time with signs and yelling and insist they remove themselves from public property."

On and on and on and on...

Not all do it, but the ones that do are incredibly annoying.

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(December 30, 2018 at 1:46 am)Amarok Wrote:

(December 29, 2018 at 1:37 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: In a recorded vote of 7-2, the Supreme Court ruled differently.  The bakery was vindicated and there's no possible legal recourse against the bakery in that case.  Next.

The courts are not always right

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I agree they are not always right, but once something is ruled on in the Supreme Court, it's considered final.  If someone feels it was unfair, they would most likely need to appeal to congress to write the current laws differently or incorporate a new law.  But regardless, it wouldn't change that individual case.

(December 30, 2018 at 12:21 am)ResoluteBaptist Wrote: She bakes the best pastries in town. Sweet chocolate cookies, a whole bushel of Pecan and Peach pies, and gooey molasses sweet bread.

Lol what does this has to do with the topic?

(December 30, 2018 at 12:21 am)ResoluteBaptist Wrote: But no. You people wouldn't much like her.

Why not?

(December 30, 2018 at 12:21 am)ResoluteBaptist Wrote: and the thoughts I actually have had about attractive women...well ...

Well then you have problem with Jesus, not atheists. For Jesus commands you to pluck your eye and cut off your penis for looking at women to save yourself from an eternal torture. So are you missing an eye or a penis? Or did you just choose to disobey Jesus? Cuz this is a serious offense in Jesus' book.