(January 11, 2019 at 4:19 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(January 11, 2019 at 2:02 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It is the only truth.  The other are fabricated myths which are mostly the same with different pagan gods.

Isn't that special.
So, of all the stories, yours just happens to be the one that's true.
LOL

Somewhere you know that is a load of BS.

True. 

"All gods are total bs and fabrications except for mine" said every theist ever. CDF would certainly agree that all of the thousands of claimed gods are superstitious fabrication with a single exception, his peculiar god.

Why his peculiar god? Well, this and other threads provide CDF with the opportunity to show why his flavour of deity is somehow different from any of the thousands of claimed other deities. 

Oddly, CDF cannot say why it is that Yahweh is different from Ra, or Odin, or Vishnu, or ... well I am not going to list them all.

The bottom line is that one could take CDF's, or Max's, or Drich's or GC's arguments and apply them to any of the other thousands of proposed deities that they do not accept.

After all, we have christians on here who actively consider each other wrong, but this being an atheist forum, they actively avoid comparative theology. The infighting can apparently wait until the godless are suppressed.

Face it. Once they had eliminated all of us they would happily set about eliminating each other as heretics.

(January 11, 2019 at 6:39 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(January 11, 2019 at 4:19 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Isn't that special.
So, of all the stories, yours just happens to be the one that's true.
LOL

Somewhere you know that is a load of BS.

True. 

"All gods are total bs and fabrications except for mine" said every theist ever. CDF would certainly agree that all of the thousands of claimed gods are superstitious fabrication with a single exception, his peculiar god.

Why his peculiar god? Well, this and other threads provide CDF with the opportunity to show why his flavour of deity is somehow different from any of the thousands of claimed other deities. 

Oddly, CDF cannot say why it is that Yahweh is different from Ra, or Odin, or Vishnu, or ... well I am not going to list them all.

The bottom line is that one could take CDF's, or Max's, or Drich's or GC's arguments and apply them to any of the other thousands of proposed deities that they do not accept.

After all, we have christians on here who actively consider each other wrong, but this being an atheist forum, they actively avoid comparative theology. The infighting can apparently wait until the godless are suppressed.

Face it. Once they had eliminated all of us they would happily set about eliminating each other as heretics.

Well THAT'S a relief. 
So Hippy Jesus just might be real after all. 

(January 11, 2019 at 7:30 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(January 11, 2019 at 6:39 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: True. 

"All gods are total bs and fabrications except for mine" said every theist ever. CDF would certainly agree that all of the thousands of claimed gods are superstitious fabrication with a single exception, his peculiar god.

Why his peculiar god? Well, this and other threads provide CDF with the opportunity to show why his flavour of deity is somehow different from any of the thousands of claimed other deities. 

Oddly, CDF cannot say why it is that Yahweh is different from Ra, or Odin, or Vishnu, or ... well I am not going to list them all.

The bottom line is that one could take CDF's, or Max's, or Drich's or GC's arguments and apply them to any of the other thousands of proposed deities that they do not accept.

After all, we have christians on here who actively consider each other wrong, but this being an atheist forum, they actively avoid comparative theology. The infighting can apparently wait until the godless are suppressed.

Face it. Once they had eliminated all of us they would happily set about eliminating each other as heretics.

Well THAT'S a relief. 
So Hippy Jesus just might be real after all. 

You must be on the west coast.  How was school?

(January 11, 2019 at 7:34 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 11, 2019 at 7:30 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Well THAT'S a relief. 
So Hippy Jesus just might be real after all. 

You must be on the west coast.  How was school?

Nope, I am fifty shortly and have never lived in the US. School was simply a matter of navigating around the pervert christian priests and nuns. Had you an actual question?  Because I know of one classmate that suicided because of your christian brethren.

Now, I know that you are going to claim that this was some aberration or demon possession or whatever excuse you choose to make, The simple fact is that the religious proclivity for abuse is legendary. Religious have horrible morals and try their best to excuse those.

So have you pulled your head out of your butt enough to realise that 95% of the world is not American?

(January 11, 2019 at 8:01 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(January 11, 2019 at 7:34 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: You must be on the west coast.  How was school?

Nope, I am fifty shortly and have never lived in the US. School was simply a matter of navigating around the pervert christian priests and nuns. Had you an actual question?  Because I know of one classmate that suicided because of your christian brethren.

Now, I know that you are going to claim that this was some aberration or demon possession or whatever excuse you choose to make, The simple fact is that the religious proclivity for abuse is legendary. Religious have horrible morals and try their best to excuse those.

So have you pulled your head out of your butt enough to realise that 95% of the world is not American?

I'm at least 95 percent sure you're not Bucky.  How's that?

How we went from that to demon possession is beyond me, but okay. 

(January 11, 2019 at 2:16 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(January 11, 2019 at 2:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, He is the Creator of the heavens and the earth.

No, he is make belief, as is heaven.   Earth has nothing to do with him, nor does anything else besides the those sad besotted lumps of jelly where normal people nonchristian people have their brains.

No He is not.

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(January 11, 2019 at 4:02 pm)Thoreauvian Wrote:

(May 4, 2018 at 4:12 am)CDF47 Wrote: Can anyone answer where the information bearing properties of DNA come from?

According to some scientists, in a biosemiotic system like DNA the signs and their meanings are linked by a code which is assigned arbitrarily within the system itself rather than by some external means.  Since such codes are arbitrarily assigned, they can come into existence through random molecular resorting.  In other words, matter can self-organize in ways other than evolution.  This is one important approach to abiogenesis.

Order of this magnitude could not have come about by random anything.

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(January 11, 2019 at 4:19 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(January 11, 2019 at 2:02 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It is the only truth.  The other are fabricated myths which are mostly the same with different pagan gods.

Isn't that special.
So, of all the stories, yours just happens to be the one that's true.
LOL

Somewhere you know that is a load of BS.

Somewhere you know a Creator exists.

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(January 11, 2019 at 4:28 pm)Nomad Wrote: For all those of ye who think ye have the answers, and those answers are a little voice in the back of your brains ye call god, watch:

Good video.

(January 11, 2019 at 6:39 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(January 11, 2019 at 4:19 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Isn't that special.
So, of all the stories, yours just happens to be the one that's true.
LOL

Somewhere you know that is a load of BS.

True. 

"All gods are total bs and fabrications except for mine" said every theist ever. CDF would certainly agree that all of the thousands of claimed gods are superstitious fabrication with a single exception, his peculiar god.

Why his peculiar god? Well, this and other threads provide CDF with the opportunity to show why his flavour of deity is somehow different from any of the thousands of claimed other deities. 

Oddly, CDF cannot say why it is that Yahweh is different from Ra, or Odin, or Vishnu, or ... well I am not going to list them all.

The bottom line is that one could take CDF's, or Max's, or Drich's or GC's arguments and apply them to any of the other thousands of proposed deities that they do not accept.

After all, we have christians on here who actively consider each other wrong, but this being an atheist forum, they actively avoid comparative theology. The infighting can apparently wait until the godless are suppressed.

Face it. Once they had eliminated all of us they would happily set about eliminating each other as heretics.

In the beginning, Yahweh created the heavens and the earth.  From there a creation account is given which I believe in OEC day-age interpretation.  Also, the prophecies in the Bible came true.  Look at the Book of Daniel for instance with all the prophecy that came true.

(January 12, 2019 at 4:10 am)CDF47 Wrote: Can anyone answer where the information bearing properties of DNA come from?

(January 11, 2019 at 4:02 pm)Thoreauvian Wrote: According to some scientists, in a biosemiotic system like DNA the signs and their meanings are linked by a code which is assigned arbitrarily within the system itself rather than by some external means.  Since such codes are arbitrarily assigned, they can come into existence through random molecular resorting.  In other words, matter can self-organize in ways other than evolution.  This is one important approach to abiogenesis.

Order of this magnitude could not have come about by random anything.

Well, of course evolution takes over fairly early to create more and more complex DNA.

(January 12, 2019 at 8:06 am)Thoreauvian Wrote:

(January 12, 2019 at 4:10 am)CDF47 Wrote: Order of this magnitude could not have come about by random anything.

Well, of course evolution takes over at a point to create more and more complex DNA.

Evolution is part of the implementation of the design to an extent (there is some change over time).

(January 12, 2019 at 7:53 am)CDF47 Wrote: In the beginning, Yahweh created the heavens and the earth.  From there a creation account is given which I believe in OEC day-age interpretation.

Not really an account though is it.
It just says god did some stuff but does not say how or why just that he did some unlikely things.

Oh and who was writing this shit down?
It doesn't give any provenance to the writing or how they knew the stuff it just goes straight into it and all of it contradicts what is actually known about how the universe operates. So forgive me if I find it silly.

(January 12, 2019 at 7:53 am)CDF47 Wrote:   Also, the prophecies in the Bible came true.  Look at the Book of Daniel for instance with all the prophecy that came true.

Except they didn't. The argument is that the prophesies that "came true" were written after the events and all the ones that were supposed to happen later, didn't.
People like to change history to validate now. Look at Trump and the wall for someone trying to change the past to match the present.

https://infidels.org/library/modern/chri...aniel.html

Quote:Whenever critical scholars point out that Daniel's purported predictions were written after the fact, Christian believers routinely retort that they are merely showing a philosophical prejudice against the possibility of supernatural prophecy. Actually, it is not a question of philosophical presuppositions, but a question of hard evidence and inference to the best explanation. Daniel's "predictions" of events up to the desecration of the Temple in 167 BC and the beginning of the Maccabean revolt substantially came true--yet its predictions of a new invasion of Egypt by Antiochus and the Resurrection of the Dead soon thereafter totally failed. The author correctly "predicted" the rise of Alexander the Great, and the history of the Seleucid and Ptolemaic kings, but he fared far worse in his predictions that God would supernaturally slay Antiochus Epiphanes, raise the dead, and inaugurate the messianic age in 163 BC. The most likely explanation of this strange pattern is that these prophecies were first composed just before the time they started to fail by an author who had no genuine talent for predicting the future.
To cite a parallel example, the Book of Mormon prophets, who purportedly flourished between 600 BC and 400 AD, supposedly gave explicit predictions about Jesus Christ's career in first-century Palestine (Helaman 14 et passim), Christopher Columbus' discovery of America (1 Nephi 13:10-12), the Revolutionary War (1 Nephi 13:15-19), and Joseph Smith's prophetic career in nineteenth-century America (2 Nephi 3). However, the book is totally silent about events after 1830, the year the book was first printed. The most likely explanation is that the book was Smith's own composition, and a heavy burden of proof lies on Mormon apologists to prove otherwise. And the exact same reasoning applies to the prophecies of Daniel.