(January 17, 2019 at 7:30 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You know, if you guys stop feeding it, It’ll go away.

Agreed. I gave up trying to reason with CDF47 a while ago. You can't reason with an ignorant person to begin with because their thinking isn't guided by reason. I won't waste any more of my time on an intellectual illiterate with a closed mind.

(January 16, 2019 at 1:26 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(January 16, 2019 at 12:50 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Right, so another excuse.  Got it master scientist.

Said the Excuse Master who doesn't even get how idiotic the question is.
Now about those definitions ... Excuse Master.

So another day, and you have all day to sit here. Hmmmmm.

So still don't have it?  No prob.  Wasn't expecting it anyway.

(January 17, 2019 at 6:22 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 15, 2019 at 7:01 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Nope. You keep lying about DNA is machine code when it isn't.

Disagree? The go ahead and provide the op-code/operand structure of DNA, Or the mnemonic/symbolic structure of DNA, or the function limits or fork/join functions, anything.

You can't because you have no clue what those are.

My point was it operates like a mini-manufacturing plant, which it clearly does.  Again, see the videos in my signature.

Nope. It doesn't matter how many times you keep referring to the videos in your sig. All they do is use deceptive language to describe chemical processes. And you fell for it. On top of that the use half truths and full on lies and omissions. For example, they start off with Francis Crick as though he was special. In fact Crick was the least productive member of a team. You have no clue that there was a team, that Crick was mostly baggage, who the other members of the team were and why exactly one was excluded. You also don't know that the team with taildragger Crick was in a race against Pauling who was also close. You don't know anything much.

The point is that your videos are dishonest from their very outset.

There is no "manufacturing plant" in cells. It's a false analogy.
There are atoms, molecules, chemical bonds and chemical reactions.
There never has been an answer here about how much complexity requires a designer.
Do basic nucleotides need a designer ?

(January 18, 2019 at 3:10 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:

(January 18, 2019 at 2:45 am)CDF47 Wrote: See the OP and the numerous posts throughout this thread.

So... the first link has sooo many poor arguments and straw-men that I find it tedious just to comment on it.

As I posted before. A Youtube video does not science make.

SO, how about that explanation of what DNA actually 'Does' then, CDF47?

Briefly, DNA encodes proteins (using a sequential order of amino acids from an assembly line) to operate in the cell.

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(January 18, 2019 at 10:57 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(January 17, 2019 at 7:30 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Yup, still at it.

Why?  You're still as wrong as you initially were, and still for the same reasons.  Don't you think that a more productive use of all of this input would have been to form a set of beliefs that at least could be true?

It's not as if you haven't had the time...........

It's pretty simple, most christians can manage.  

Does DNA (or any fact of biology) pove the existence of a god?  No..and that's the way god wanted it.
Does speciation occur?  Yes...and that's the way god wanted it.

Hey, look at that..I have two sentences there which contain both facts....and god!  There's no point in asserting otherwise, it only erodes the credibility of a god idea incapable of withstanding critical scrutiny.  If god "made the world" he must have made it as we see it.  That act and the nature of that act would ultimately account for why things are as we find them to be.  The responsibility of a person who credibly holds such a position is to make that position amenable to factual statements, not the other way around.  

You've been stomping on gods dick for a thousand pages, for no reason whatsoever.  IDK, I hear he's a prissy bitch.....so you might wanna put the kibosh on all this blasphemy.

Actually, biology does prove it, in the field of genetics.  

There is no blasphemy here.  Just speaking the truth that DNA proves the existence of a Creator.

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(January 18, 2019 at 11:22 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(January 17, 2019 at 7:30 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You know, if you guys stop feeding it, It’ll go away.

Agreed. I gave up trying to reason with CDF47 a while ago. You can't reason with an ignorant person to begin with because their thinking isn't guided by reason. I won't waste any more of my time on an intellectual illiterate with a closed mind.

LMAO...how do you really feel?

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(January 18, 2019 at 5:34 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(January 17, 2019 at 6:22 pm)CDF47 Wrote: My point was it operates like a mini-manufacturing plant, which it clearly does.  Again, see the videos in my signature.

Nope. It doesn't matter how many times you keep referring to the videos in your sig. All they do is use deceptive language to describe chemical processes. And you fell for it. On top of that the use half truths and full on lies and omissions. For example, they start off with Francis Crick as though he was special. In fact Crick was the least productive member of a team. You have no clue that there was a team, that Crick was mostly baggage, who the other members of the team were and why exactly one was excluded. You also don't know that the team with taildragger Crick was in a race against Pauling who was also close. You don't know anything much.

The point is that your videos are dishonest from their very outset.

I knew he was part of a team but I thought it was just with one other member.

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(January 18, 2019 at 9:24 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: There is no "manufacturing plant" in cells. It's a false analogy.
There are atoms, molecules, chemical bonds and chemical reactions.
There never has been an answer here about how much complexity requires a designer.
Do basic nucleotides need a designer ?

There is order everywhere in a universe that should be random and chaotic.  How can you not see this?

Quote:There is no "manufacturing plant" in cells. It's a false analogy.
There are atoms, molecules, chemical bonds and chemical reactions.
There never has been an answer here about how much complexity requires a designer.
Do basic nucleotides need a designer ?

Quote:There is order everywhere in a universe that should be random and chaotic.  How can you not see this?

No gods needed. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory
Didn't you once say in this thread that there was disorder everywhere out as far as you could see, and I corrected you ?

(January 18, 2019 at 11:17 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:There is no "manufacturing plant" in cells. It's a false analogy.
There are atoms, molecules, chemical bonds and chemical reactions.
There never has been an answer here about how much complexity requires a designer.
Do basic nucleotides need a designer ?

Quote:There is order everywhere in a universe that should be random and chaotic.  How can you not see this?

No gods needed. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory
Didn't you once say in this thread that there was disorder everywhere out as far as you could see, and I corrected you ?

A Creator is needed for this order to an extreme degree found everywhere in the universe and living systems is proof of design.

(January 18, 2019 at 10:11 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 18, 2019 at 3:10 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: So... the first link has sooo many poor arguments and straw-men that I find it tedious just to comment on it.

As I posted before. A Youtube video does not science make.

SO, how about that explanation of what DNA actually 'Does' then, CDF47?

Briefly, DNA encodes proteins (using a sequential order of amino acids from an assembly line) to operate in the cell.

 Uhm... okay, yes. That's very breif. *Nods*

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(January 19, 2019 at 12:02 am)CDF47 Wrote: A Creator is needed for this order to an extreme degree found everywhere in the universe and living systems is proof of design.

 Oh! That's an interesting point!

So, CDF47, if we find organisms under the ice of Jupiter's moon Europa....

Then what should we find in sad organism's DNA?



Not at work.

(January 19, 2019 at 12:02 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 18, 2019 at 11:17 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: No gods needed. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory
Didn't you once say in this thread that there was disorder everywhere out as far as you could see, and I corrected you ?

A Creator is needed for this order to an extreme degree found everywhere in the universe and living systems is proof of design.

Define "extreme degree". Provide us examples of degrees of order that are not extreme.
You didn't answer the question.

A Creator is needed for this order to an extreme degree found everywhere in the universe and living systems is proof of design.

Says the puddle so nicely nestled in the hole that was made just for it.