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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 24, 2019 at 7:49 pm
(January 24, 2019 at 6:20 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (January 24, 2019 at 9:11 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Sorry... got my personalities mixed up there as I posted on the fly. 
Still am pretty sure I'm not making a straw man argument.....
You are focused on ID and I am focused on DNA. That is the strawman created. I am not focused on the ID movement.
Soo... you're not in the camp of other I.D.-ers.... but... you are saying DNA etc is intelligently designed?
Okay, now colour me confused. (Confused, not straw manning.  )
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 24, 2019 at 8:17 pm
I’ll tell you what, @ CDF47 :
You submit your YouTube videos for peer review, and ring me up when you get your Nobel prize, mkay?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 24, 2019 at 10:47 pm
Just because DNA is to complex for you to understand does not indicate divinity.
This argument is little more than an advanced god-of-the-gaps. What happens when we discover how DNA evolved and, surprise surprise, it has nothing to do with an invisible friend in the sky? Are you going to find some other gap in scientific knowledge and say that this is evidence of god? What happens when that gap gets filled, too? I mean, this isn't much better than the ancient Greeks looking up at the stars, the sun and the moon, not understanding what they are and thinking "Must be the gods."
Ok, there's way too much out there we don't know on a scientific level for me to believe we're going to fill all those gaps, so I guess this argument is going to be sticking around for quite a while. Even if I don't know for certain what goes in those gaps, I haven't seen any good evidence that you fill those gaps with god.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 24, 2019 at 11:50 pm
Somebody please take this thread out to a cross-roads and bury it face down with a stake through its heart.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 24, 2019 at 11:58 pm
(January 24, 2019 at 11:50 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Somebody please take this thread out to a cross-roads and bury it face down with a stake through its heart.
But we might summon a crossroads demon.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 25, 2019 at 12:21 am
(January 24, 2019 at 11:50 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Somebody please take this thread out to a cross-roads and bury it face down with a stake through its heart.
But it's fun to make fun of the ridiculous thought processes of the fundies. We gotta have something to laugh at, don't we?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 25, 2019 at 12:24 am
(This post was last modified: January 25, 2019 at 12:24 am by The Grand Nudger.)
We'll see the real value the next time some IDiot wanders in.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 25, 2019 at 12:57 am
(This post was last modified: January 25, 2019 at 1:04 am by CDF47.)
(January 24, 2019 at 6:42 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (January 24, 2019 at 6:20 pm)CDF47 Wrote: That's not the purpose of ID. They purposely do not get into that. They focus on the science which points to a Creator.
You are focused on ID and I am focused on DNA. That is the strawman created. I am not focused on the ID movement.
I provided much more than that. I provided proof. Watch the videos in my signature or in this thread on the molecular machines. I will re-post the molecular machine video if you would like to watch it.
I’m not watching your stupid YouTube videos. I shouldn’t even be responding to you, because I’m convinced you’re a troll, and I’m going against my own advice in this very thread. When the scientific consensus is that life was was designed by god, get back to me. Unfortunately for you, all available evidence points to evolution by natural selection. You’re silly, “wow, look how complex this is! It’s just obvious!” is nonsense that I shouldn’t even bother responding to.
It's not just complex, it's functional (the information). The establishment has been wrong so many times in the past and I believe it is happening again. So many scientists throughout history have proved the establishment wrong despite facing persecution at times as well; for instance, the Earth revolves around the sun.
(January 24, 2019 at 7:49 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: (January 24, 2019 at 6:20 pm)CDF47 Wrote: You are focused on ID and I am focused on DNA. That is the strawman created. I am not focused on the ID movement.
Soo... you're not in the camp of other I.D.-ers.... but... you are saying DNA etc is intelligently designed?
Okay, now colour me confused. (Confused, not straw manning. )
I support ID but not in the context of you changing my words. Again, DNA is the proof, not ID.
(January 24, 2019 at 8:17 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I’ll tell you what, @CDF47 :
You submit your YouTube videos for peer review, and ring me up when you get your Nobel prize, mkay?
With those in charge, it ain't happening, LOL.
(January 24, 2019 at 10:47 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Just because DNA is to complex for you to understand does not indicate divinity.
This argument is little more than an advanced god-of-the-gaps. What happens when we discover how DNA evolved and, surprise surprise, it has nothing to do with an invisible friend in the sky? Are you going to find some other gap in scientific knowledge and say that this is evidence of god? What happens when that gap gets filled, too? I mean, this isn't much better than the ancient Greeks looking up at the stars, the sun and the moon, not understanding what they are and thinking "Must be the gods."
Ok, there's way too much out there we don't know on a scientific level for me to believe we're going to fill all those gaps, so I guess this argument is going to be sticking around for quite a while. Even if I don't know for certain what goes in those gaps, I haven't seen any good evidence that you fill those gaps with god.
I suggest the article below from an establishment scientist:
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/bar...evidence-0
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 25, 2019 at 1:04 am
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"The Establishment" being wrong about something won't make you right about anything.
At some point, you're going to have to make your own case..and if the only case you can make is the one you've already presented here in this thread, the issue is DOA. The creation movement already ran their faces right into this wall, and it was disastrous.
You're kinda late to the party.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 25, 2019 at 1:05 am
(This post was last modified: January 25, 2019 at 1:26 am by CDF47.)
(January 24, 2019 at 11:50 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Somebody please take this thread out to a cross-roads and bury it face down with a stake through its heart.
LOL...It's not that bad.
(January 25, 2019 at 1:04 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: "The Establishment" being wrong about something won't make you right about anything.
At some point, you're going to have to make your own case..and if the only case you can make is the one you've already presented here in this thread, the issue is DOA. The creation movement already ran their faces right into this wall, and it was disastrous.
You're kinda late to the party.
It is like the mental version of the Berlin Wall.
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