(January 25, 2019 at 3:31 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(January 25, 2019 at 3:15 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I am not here to just say stuff at you.  It just boggles my mind that people on here can't see the truth in what I presented.  

The same things get repeated because there are simple truths which keep getting ignored when people are posting and there are strawman tactics being used against me.  It is the only way to counter that shit that I know of, aside from pointing it out when it happens.

I enjoy discussing this broad topic with everyone here so I continue, is all.  I think we all like to discuss these things which is why, at least for many of us, we are in this thread in the first place.  It is an interesting topic and the most important in my opinion.  Above politics and everything else, this is what people should be discussing, rather than Snookie's pregnancy.

Some other asshole said you were.  Which of those two assholes is right?

The same things get repeated because you're an asshole, and repeating things is the crude limit of your ability to engage in this conversation.

Why should people be discussing the silly beliefs you have about evolutionary biology and creationism?  What makes them important at all?

In balance..honestly, snookies pregnancy probably is more important (whoever the fuck snookie is?).

It's very important, I believe eternally important.

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(January 25, 2019 at 4:04 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(January 25, 2019 at 3:26 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I presented truths and facts, not just claims.  I made some claims but my ultimate statement is a fact and is true.  I won't repeat it but it is fact.

Again, no.

Every last one of your claims are claims, not facts. You have done absofuckinglutely nothing that even qualifies as an attempt to bridge even the smallest fraction of the gulf between those claims which you repeatedly, idiotically, and falsely assert to be facts, and what could even be considered as candidates worthy of preliminary examination for factualness.

If what I said are not facts, then there are no facts.

(January 25, 2019 at 4:08 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 25, 2019 at 3:31 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Some other asshole said you were.  Which of those two assholes is right?

The same things get repeated because you're an asshole, and repeating things is the crude limit of your ability to engage in this conversation.

Why should people be discussing the silly beliefs you have about evolutionary biology and creationism?  What makes them important at all?

In balance..honestly, snookies pregnancy probably is more important (whoever the fuck snookie is?).

It's very important, I believe eternally important.

You beliefs are not facts. Your believing them does not make them facts. That you think they can not but be facts still does not make them facts. Understood?

Now go away.

(January 25, 2019 at 4:05 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(January 25, 2019 at 3:26 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I presented truths and facts, not just claims.  I made some claims but my ultimate statement is a fact and is true.  I won't repeat it but it is fact.

For what?

(January 25, 2019 at 4:08 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 25, 2019 at 3:31 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Some other asshole said you were.  Which of those two assholes is right?

The same things get repeated because you're an asshole, and repeating things is the crude limit of your ability to engage in this conversation.

Why should people be discussing the silly beliefs you have about evolutionary biology and creationism?  What makes them important at all?

In balance..honestly, snookies pregnancy probably is more important (whoever the fuck snookie is?).

It's very important, I believe eternally important.

So what, you're just telling me about your own silly beliefs again.  What eternal importance could believing the silly things you believe have?  At least snookies having a baby. Babies are real, and important. Your silly beliefs are just silly beliefs.

Quote:If what I said are not facts, then there are no facts.

Thats not how facts work.  If what you said is not a fact, then what you said is not a fact, full stop.

What you've said were not facts.  Full stop. Also a fact...that's one of the dumbest things that I've ever seen anyone write, and I've been here having discussions like these with loons like you for awhile.

(January 25, 2019 at 4:15 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(January 25, 2019 at 4:08 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It's very important, I believe eternally important.

So what, you're just telling me about your own silly beliefs again.  What eternal importance could believing the silly things you believe have?  At least snookies having a baby.  Babies are real, and important.  Your silly beliefs are just silly beliefs.

Quote:If what I said are not facts, then there are no facts.

Thats not how facts work.  If what you said is not a fact, then what you said is not a fact, full stop.

What you've said were not facts.  Full stop.  Also a fact...that's one of the dumbest things that I've ever seen anyone write, and I've been here having discussions like these with loons like you for awhile.

That is a belief but it is based on logic and reason as well as faith.

No, it's not.  If it were, you could show it, but in 1k pages you haven't.  You've merely repeated the belief. It's okay that it's your fact and logic free belief..it really is. It's not okay to misrepresent it as something it isn't.

Jesus doesn't care much for a liar, or for those who preach a false gospel.

(January 25, 2019 at 4:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 25, 2019 at 4:15 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: So what, you're just telling me about your own silly beliefs again.  What eternal importance could believing the silly things you believe have?  At least snookies having a baby.  Babies are real, and important.  Your silly beliefs are just silly beliefs.

Thats not how facts work.  If what you said is not a fact, then what you said is not a fact, full stop.

What you've said were not facts.  Full stop.  Also a fact...that's one of the dumbest things that I've ever seen anyone write, and I've been here having discussions like these with loons like you for awhile.

That is a belief but it is based on logic and reason as well as faith.

Facts don’t come from wish thinking masquerading as logic or reason. It absofuckinglutely never comes from faith. Facts are deduced from evidence. You have produced no salient evidence, no sound deduction, as has been explained to you in meticulous detail many times.

Only idiot arrogance made possible by your disgusting religion caused you to come back again and again with the same shit, and narrowed your patgetic mind so much that you are unable to do anything else.

(January 25, 2019 at 2:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 25, 2019 at 2:50 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: So, by what method do you determine which science is trustworthy and which isn’t?  Let me guess: if it enables you to live a comfortable, first world life with all its perks it’s good science, and if it disagrees with your world view, it’s a global conspiracy to hide the truth of Christianity? Seems legit.



I’m not offended; I’m annoyed.  There’s a difference.

I only really disagree with the multiverse and common ancestry in general related to this argument.

Yes, as I said; only the categories of science that disagree with your world view, lol.  You don see anything wrong with that...?

Alot of people assume that some counterfactual thing is necessary for their worldview to be true.  Consider his earlier proclamation that if what he's said is not a fact, then there are no facts.

This mistaken assumption leads to extremely specific denials.  

For him, for example....common ancestry is "untrue"..but only because he thinks that this would make his religion false.  He likely doesn't think that paternity tests are "untrue" - and doesn't realize that the truth of a paternity test and the truth of common ancestry rest on the same facts and methodologies.  So he denies one specific aspect of a broader fact he actually accepts, even.

It's not a categorical rejection....it's a surgical one, lol. That's what makes it so funny. If he was just like "fuck biology, whadda they know" that would be one thing. I bet he even knows why he's wrong, even though he certainly doesn't think it makes him wrong.

(January 25, 2019 at 5:41 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: It's not a categorical rejection....it's a surgical one, lol.  

Lol, that is a very good analogy.