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(January 27, 2019 at 9:10 pm)no one Wrote: Reality pales to vivid imagination!

I had a theist philisophy teacher, hot to any kind of teenager. She said a soul exists because we think it exists, the notion.

The same can be said about peter pan, the loch ness monster etcetera.

She gave me 12/20.

It's good for a philosophy class.

(January 28, 2019 at 11:13 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 28, 2019 at 7:31 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Why? You will simply ignore it all over again.

I didn't ignore anything.  I addressed the previous posts on it.  One was a computer simulation of things moving around after some programming was done.

Yeah you did. It was carefully explained to you the the same thing could be achieved with an array of playing cards on your living room floor but you ignored that too, because you are to thick to figure it out. It doesn't matter in the slightest whether it is a computer simulation, cards on your floor or molecules. The result is the same.

That is the part that scares you. That is why you attempt to dust the result under the carpet and handwave it away. That is how we all know you are a liar.

I don't know how you live with that level of dishonesty.

(January 28, 2019 at 11:39 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: You have the internet.  Use it.  Or just refer to those links in this thread that you've already received?  The issue is in the public domain, and was widely followed and reported on.  

This culminated in a trial, the transcripts of which are available to you and have been referred to you previously in thread.

You...got conned...by charlatans.  They knew that their methodology was unscientific, they knew that their specific claims regarding complexity and design had been thoroughly falsified, and they knew that their claims were designed to specifically advance a particular notion of the judeochristian god.  All of this information was volunteered, by themselves, under oath, on record.  These are not facts in dispute about biology, gods, reality, or anything else.  They are facts about the mundane operation of a puerile scam, that you've swallowed....hook line and sinker.  

So go, and let wonder lead you to knowledge.  Maybe you'll find a way to waltz right out of the ID cult and back into the fold of christian belief..which is unaffected by the failure of ID and the falsification of it's god.

Believe what you want but I disagree.  I think that whole case was a big fiasco that should have never happened in the first place which I think Dr. Stephen C. Meyer also believes.  OEC Christians agree with ID.  So do YEC Christians to an extent.  Even Seventh Day Adventists (SDA) believe in the video in my signature (the section showing the molecular machinery in the cell).  I seen it on one of their Youtube videos before.

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(January 28, 2019 at 2:05 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(January 27, 2019 at 9:10 pm)no one Wrote: Reality pales to vivid imagination!

I had a theist philisophy teacher, hot to any kind of teenager. She said a soul exists because we think it exists, the notion.

The same can be said about peter pan, the loch ness monster etcetera.

She gave me 12/20.

It's good for a philosophy class.

I had philosophy as well back in college as a Freshman or Sophomore.  Not sure what the teacher believed but she was really cool.  Yeah, 12/20 not bad on a bit of a curve.  Depends on how hard the teacher made the class.  I seen a 12/20 almost equal a B before in some classes that were so tough.  Good thing that teacher graded on a bell curve.

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(January 28, 2019 at 5:56 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(January 28, 2019 at 11:13 am)CDF47 Wrote: I didn't ignore anything.  I addressed the previous posts on it.  One was a computer simulation of things moving around after some programming was done.

Yeah you did. It was carefully explained to you the the same thing could be achieved with an array of playing cards on your living room floor but you ignored that too, because you are to thick to figure it out. It doesn't matter in the slightest whether it is a computer simulation, cards on your floor or molecules. The result is the same.

That is the part that scares you. That is why you attempt to dust the result under the carpet and handwave it away. That is how we all know you are a liar.

I don't know how you live with that level of dishonesty.

My point was, it took a programmer to program the machine that gets things moving by themselves.  Someone created the experiment.  The whole thing was designed by an intelligent designer.

(January 29, 2019 at 5:04 am)CDF47 Wrote: My point was, it took a programmer to program the machine that gets things moving by themselves.  Someone created the experiment.  The whole thing was designed by an intelligent designer.

Oh FFSK CDF47!

You've been corrected, told how wrong you are and down right given links to infromation that detail why your statement is simply NOT the case.

But, fek it, lets have you humour me for a second.

Just a question, okay?

You say there is 'Information' within DNA.

Okay, right.

Please expand upon or indicate what and where this 'Information' is or might be.

All the best with that.

(January 29, 2019 at 5:04 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 28, 2019 at 5:56 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Yeah you did. It was carefully explained to you the the same thing could be achieved with an array of playing cards on your living room floor but you ignored that too, because you are to thick to figure it out. It doesn't matter in the slightest whether it is a computer simulation, cards on your floor or molecules. The result is the same.

That is the part that scares you. That is why you attempt to dust the result under the carpet and handwave it away. That is how we all know you are a liar.

I don't know how you live with that level of dishonesty.

My point was, it took a programmer to program the machine that gets things moving by themselves.  Someone created the experiment.  The whole thing was designed by an intelligent designer.

Well done. More lies and you know it. The simulation is simply a method to demonstrate the principle in a faster and more convenient way. It is unnecessary, the principle stands with or without the simulation. You already know this because you have been told so over and over again. And you keep on lying about it over and over again.

How about you step up for a change and at least try to learn something. Like that's going to happen.

(January 29, 2019 at 6:47 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:

(January 29, 2019 at 5:04 am)CDF47 Wrote: My point was, it took a programmer to program the machine that gets things moving by themselves.  Someone created the experiment.  The whole thing was designed by an intelligent designer.

Oh FFSK CDF47!

You've been corrected, told how wrong you are and down right given links to infromation that detail why your statement is simply NOT the case.

But, fek it, lets have you humour me for a second.

Just a question, okay?

You say there is 'Information' within DNA.

Okay, right.

Please expand upon or indicate what and where this 'Information' is or might be.

All the best with that.

Read the OP and watch the 3 minute video in my signature (short video).

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(January 29, 2019 at 7:45 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(January 29, 2019 at 5:04 am)CDF47 Wrote: My point was, it took a programmer to program the machine that gets things moving by themselves.  Someone created the experiment.  The whole thing was designed by an intelligent designer.

Well done. More lies and you know it. The simulation is simply a method to demonstrate the principle in a faster and more convenient way. It is unnecessary, the principle stands with or without the simulation. You already know this because you have been told so over and over again. And you keep on lying about it over and over again.

How about you step up for a change and at least try to learn something. Like that's going to happen.

I am learning from you guys.  Thank you for all the information.  I read nearly every post in here (aside from when Ev was doing battle 20 pages at a time) and I watched many of the videos and read many of the articles.  Much good information was provided and I appreciate that.  I can learn from that.  What I still hold to be true though is that because of the complex and functional information inside DNA there is a Designer.  So, much of the information provided shows how the design is implemented.  I agree with everything presented, just about, except for common ancestry and the multiverse (which I think most serious scientists know is a joke anyway).  There is still much debate over common ancestry.  You have to at least admit that.

(January 29, 2019 at 8:29 am)CDF47 Wrote: Read the OP and watch the 3 minute video in my signature (short video).

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 The Youtube things that have also been referanced and debunked many times previously in this thread?

Really?

That's all you've got to cling too?

Nothing new? Nothing that you can actually explain?

Are you that derth of understanding of the very topic you're espousing that you can't even explain it?

Again you claim 'Design'.

Okay, 'Where' is it?

Where is there 'Design' that is not chemistry or physics?

(January 29, 2019 at 8:29 am)CDF47 Wrote:   There is still much debate over common ancestry.  You have to at least admit that.

No, there is not.  If your silly god "designed" anything..then common ancestry was a part of that process.

The only people who debate this, are ignorant creationists and the charlatans who con them.

It seems to me that in CDs mind anything complex must have been created by a being capable of designing complex things. But he has a problem. The complex thing designer is a complex thing, so by his own "logic" MUST have been designed by a greater designer who must have been created by a greater designer who must have been created by a greater designer who must have been created by a greater designer who must have been created by a greater designer who must have been created by a greater designer who must have been created by a greater designer who must have been created by a greater designer who must have been created by a greater designer ………...and so on.

His is a failure of epic proportions.

Over a thousand pages of him being proved wrong.

At this point I think he's just trying to get the last word in.