Quote:I accept the God of the Holy Scriptures.

So you then also accept his wife, (of the Holy Scriptures) ?

(January 31, 2019 at 2:23 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:I accept the God of the Holy Scriptures.

So you then also accept his wife, (of the Holy Scriptures) ?

And also that he's a minor war god of the Canaanite pantheon (also from the holy scriptures, specifically genesis 1).

(January 31, 2019 at 1:40 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(January 31, 2019 at 12:58 am)CDF47 Wrote: I accept the God of the Holy Scriptures.

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So you say.

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Just the facts I stated.  It got repetitive because the questions and comments needed a similar response.

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I disagree since common descent from monkeys is so commonly disputed with science to support it.  I believe Dr. Meyer covers this in his book Darwin's Doubt.

Just because a charlatans says what you want to hear and claim it is from science does not make it from science.  That fact that you can actually think it is from science means you know nothing about science and do no care to learn what science is, and use the prestige of its name and track record fraudulently and opportunistically to glorify the antithesis of science.

Dr. Stephen C. Meyer is not a charlatan and he uses the same scientific method Darwin used.

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(January 31, 2019 at 2:09 am)Nomad Wrote:

(January 29, 2019 at 4:28 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: You "seen" it ? 
And you claim to have a college education ?
The truth will out. I think it just did.

Remember there's a lot of far right fundagelical groups out there running diploma mills.  What Mr Inquisition has on the wall isn't worth the (cheap and low grade) paper it's printed on

(January 29, 2019 at 4:30 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Yeah it did..remember back when I suggested that our boy here actually knew that he was wrong and why, but that the peculiarities of his religious compulsion necessitated compartmentalization of those known facts?

Uh-huh.  Got a liar for behe on our hands, disgracing christ with his every utterance.  This one needs to go get some jesus in his life.

Yeah christians can only lie for Jeebus.  Anything  else's a sin.

I went to a very difficult engineering school.  A really good school.  Not giving away the name though.

Also, I really try hard not to lie about anything. I try to be as honest a person as I can be.

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(January 31, 2019 at 9:02 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(January 31, 2019 at 12:58 am)CDF47 Wrote:

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I disagree since common descent from monkeys is so commonly disputed with science to support it.  I believe Dr. Meyer covers this in his book Darwin's Doubt.

Who cares if you disagree?  Not me, not facts, not god.  

This is your fundamental problem.  You can't accept the world, that god allegedly made..as it is, as god must have made it, if a god made it.  

You are shitting on the lord of the cosmos and his work with every silly thing you post.  Why don't you try to accept your gods work for what it is, for a change?  You may be insulted by him having designed you by common descent, but that's what he did, if he did anything at all.  Who are you to question or deny his will and means?

I just don't believe he made us through a common descent from monkeys.  I believe Adam and Eve were our first parents.

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(January 31, 2019 at 1:12 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(January 31, 2019 at 12:58 am)CDF47 Wrote: I accept the God of the Holy Scriptures.

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So you say.

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Just the facts I stated.  It got repetitive because the questions and comments needed a similar response.

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I disagree since common descent from monkeys is so commonly disputed with science to support it.  I believe Dr. Meyer covers this in his book Darwin's Doubt.

So you haven't accepted the god of the great sagas and cling to your pagan beliefs?

How sad.

I am not a pagan.  I believe in one God of three persons.  A Godhead.

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(January 31, 2019 at 1:41 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

Must admit a diety that 'Runs with the wolves' and prefers folks to die gloriously is much more appealing than one which just talks about sheep and being meek.

God measures the heart.  He likes humble people.  He does not like arrogance or bullies.

At work.

(February 1, 2019 at 12:50 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Dr. Stephen C. Meyer is not a charlatan and he uses the same scientific method Darwin used.

Uhm.... actually CDF47?

It's totally because Myer and co went the way they did (Trying to push their agenda through schools and NOT peer reveiw) is why people have such distaste.

Also..... I'm pretty sure science, as a whole, has moved on quite a ways since Charles published his book.

Though, yes, the basic scientific method is still largely the same.

Cheers.

(January 31, 2019 at 1:44 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: It's the charlatans who monetize god that love a gullible cretin.  God itself can't be reached for comment on the matter.

Hey Gae.  Could you ever be a deist at least?  Just curious.  Also, what if common ancestry proves not to be true.  It is a debated topic.  Could you ever accept Christianity?  If so, what would it take.  Try to be serious on this one.  I am curious.

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(January 31, 2019 at 2:23 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:I accept the God of the Holy Scriptures.

So you then also accept his wife, (of the Holy Scriptures) ?

No wife.  Three masculine persons make up the Godhead.

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(January 31, 2019 at 5:16 pm)Nomad Wrote:

(January 31, 2019 at 2:23 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: So you then also accept his wife, (of the Holy Scriptures) ?

And also that he's a minor war god of the Canaanite pantheon (also from the holy scriptures, specifically genesis 1).

What do you mean by that?  Can you elaborate?

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(February 1, 2019 at 12:56 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

(February 1, 2019 at 12:50 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Dr. Stephen C. Meyer is not a charlatan and he uses the same scientific method Darwin used.

Uhm.... actually CDF47?

It's totally because Myer and co went the way they did (Trying to push their agenda through schools and NOT peer reveiw) is why people have such distaste.

Also..... I'm pretty sure science, as a whole, has moved on quite a ways since Charles published his book.

Though, yes, the basic scientific method is still largely the same.

Cheers.

Dr. Meyer was never a fan of the trial from my understanding.  I don't think he liked the idea to begin with of pushing this into public schools the way they went about it.  I think he has alternative plans for education on the subject.  

Cheers man!

At work.

(February 1, 2019 at 12:50 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 31, 2019 at 1:41 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Must admit a diety that 'Runs with the wolves' and prefers folks to die gloriously is much more appealing than one which just talks about sheep and being meek.

God measures the heart.  He likes humble people.  He does not like arrogance or bullies.

Ouch ! CDF47.


Gross way to completely mischaracterise what I posted/said.

Also, you can't 'Educate' others if what your espousing is just wishful opinions.

(February 1, 2019 at 12:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 31, 2019 at 1:44 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: It's the charlatans who monetize god that love a gullible cretin.  God itself can't be reached for comment on the matter.

Hey Gae.  Could you ever be a deist at least?  Just curious. 

Sure.  I could be a deist, or a theist too...all it would take was for gods to exist.  Since they don't..I'm not.

Quote:Also, what if common ancestry proves not to be true.  It is a debated topic. 

It's not, really...that's just something you tell yourself so that you don't have to confront facts inconvenient to your beliefs....which aren't necessary beliefs for a christian to hold....but if common ancestry turned out to be inaccurate then we would be dealing with two or more independent instances of life having arisen in such incredibly similar ways as to be indistinguishable and reproductively compatible.  Obviously this would explain nothing not already explained by common ancestry and have absolutely no relevance to superstitious beliefs.  

Ultimately, if we ever find life on some other rock then we'll have an example of life having arisen independently multiple times and this isn't something that would really surprise me - but it won't change those facts of biology on this rock that make common descent the overwhelmingly more plausible scenario.  

Quote:Could you ever accept Christianity?  If so, what would it take.  Try to be serious on this one.  I am curious.

No.  I'm not interested in killing the better man to pay for my parking tickets, or spending eternity with any asshole who would. That I'm not a christian has very little to do with my atheism, in the end. I have a moral objection to your terrible religion...and that's -before- folks like you make it even more ridiculous than it already is/was.

(January 31, 2019 at 2:23 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: So you then also accept his wife, (of the Holy Scriptures) ?

Quote:No wife.  Three masculine persons make up the Godhead.

Then you do not accept the Bible.
1. No JEW ever accepts that there is a trinity.
2. Do your masculine persons have dicks and testosterone ? LOL Gender evolved as a way to reproduce. Does your silly deity reproduce ? LOL
How can there be a male god without female gods ? https://www.seeker.com/gods-wife-edited-...83399.html
3. "Between the 10th century BC and the beginning of their exile in 586 BC, polytheism was normal throughout Israel; it was only after the exile that worship of Yahweh alone became established, and possibly only as late as the time of the Maccabees (2nd century BC) that monotheism became universal among the Jews. Some biblical scholars believe that Asherah at one time was worshipped as the consort of Yahweh, the national God of Israel.There are references to the worship of numerous gods throughout Kings: Solomon builds temples to many gods and Josiah is reported as cutting down the statues of Asherah in the temple Solomon built for Yahweh (2 Kings 23:14). Josiah's grandfather Manasseh had erected one such statue (2 Kings 21:7).

The Book of Jeremiah, written circa 628 BC, possibly refers to Asherah when it uses the title "Queen of Heaven"in Jeremiah 7:16-18 and Jeremiah 44:17-19, 25.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_h...(antiquity)
http://www.ancientpages.com/2017/04/12/a...l-mystery/
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1585374?seq...b_contents

2 Kings 21:7 New International Version (NIV)
7 He took the carved Asherah pole he had made and put it in the temple, of which the Lord had said to David and to his son Solomon, “In this temple and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, I will put my Name forever.

Too bad for you, he did have a wife, and it's a part of your scripture.

(February 1, 2019 at 12:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 31, 2019 at 1:44 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: It's the charlatans who monetize god that love a gullible cretin.  God itself can't be reached for comment on the matter.

Hey Gae.  Could you ever be a deist at least?  Just curious.  Also, what if common ancestry proves not to be true.  It is a debated topic.  Could you ever accept Christianity?  If so, what would it take.  Try to be serious on this one.  I am curious.

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If it turned out common ancestry wasn't the answer. (by the way all the science shows it is, but I'll play) then we would be looking for some other mechanism. God is not the default answer. In fact god is so unlikely a thing itself thing that unless something major changes we can rule it out of being responsible for anything.

(February 1, 2019 at 12:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 31, 2019 at 1:44 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: It's the charlatans who monetize god that love a gullible cretin.  God itself can't be reached for comment on the matter.

Hey Gae.  Could you ever be a deist at least?  Just curious.  Also, what if common ancestry proves not to be true.  It is a debated topic.  Could you ever accept Christianity?  If so, what would it take.  Try to be serious on this one.  I am curious.

EVIDENCE. You still have none. You will never have any, and even if you had such, I for one would have a problem with such an immoral thug.

(February 1, 2019 at 12:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 31, 2019 at 2:23 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: So you then also accept his wife, (of the Holy Scriptures) ?

No wife.  Three masculine persons make up the Godhead.

Your holy book says you are incorrect. The bible names your god's wife. You have no clue who that might be.

(February 1, 2019 at 12:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 31, 2019 at 5:16 pm)Nomad Wrote: And also that he's a minor war god of the Canaanite pantheon (also from the holy scriptures, specifically genesis 1).

What do you mean by that?  Can you elaborate?

So you haven't read your holy book? Why is it that atheists have read your holy book and you have not?

(February 1, 2019 at 12:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(February 1, 2019 at 12:56 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

Uhm.... actually CDF47?

It's totally because Myer and co went the way they did (Trying to push their agenda through schools and NOT peer reveiw) is why people have such distaste.

Also..... I'm pretty sure science, as a whole, has moved on quite a ways since Charles published his book.

Though, yes, the basic scientific method is still largely the same.

Cheers.

Dr. Meyer was never a fan of the trial from my understanding.  I don't think he liked the idea to begin with of pushing this into public schools the way they went about it.  I think he has alternative plans for education on the subject.  

Cheers man!

Of course not. Meyer was not fond of getting spanked in court.