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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 5, 2019 at 11:46 am
At work.
(March 5, 2019 at 10:33 am)CDF47 Wrote: (March 5, 2019 at 10:19 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: *Sigh*
Now you're digging your heels in about tangling up 'Fine tuning' with 'Inteligent design'.
Astronomy and Biology actually have very little in common. Other than some aspects of fundamental physics.
But hey, you keep doing you CDF47.
I am not tangling up anything. There is fine-tuning everywhere.
Yes, yes we do constantly re-read your assertion about the find tuning thing since it and smart design are pretty much your only talking points.
What I was commenting on was you not tangling both together.
The start of everything does nothing to explain the subsequent smart design choices you're insisting that have subsequently been made.
Fine tuning is the innitial setting up of dominoes. Or the preparing of food before being cooked and laid out on plates and tables.
Your inteligent design should be explaining the recipe. It should be explaining not just that the dominoes fall but specifically explaining the pattern the dominoes are falling in.
Care to offer something to bolster your position CDF47?
No hurry. I bet there are lots of places/sites you can find to help every one come to a great understanding. :thumbsup:
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 5, 2019 at 12:46 pm
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(March 5, 2019 at 10:37 am)pocaracas Wrote: (March 5, 2019 at 10:33 am)CDF47 Wrote: I am not tangling up anything. There is fine-tuning everywhere.
You have no evidence at all that any tuning is possible. So, please, just shut up with that.
Come on. Everyone knows the constants of the universe are fine-tuned as well as everything else.
(March 5, 2019 at 11:33 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: The fact, CDF, is that you're a beheite opining on a scientific conspiracy. All because you don't want to come from a monkey, lol. Who gives a shit? Not biology, not god. Neither of those things are beholden to your monkey derived insecurities.
Can't argue the facts can you. Only name calling.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 5, 2019 at 12:48 pm
(March 5, 2019 at 12:46 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (March 5, 2019 at 10:37 am)pocaracas Wrote: You have no evidence at all that any tuning is possible. So, please, just shut up with that.
Come on. Everyone knows the constants of the universe are fine-tuned as well as everything else.
The constants of the Universe?
What sort of tuning would be possible with those?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 5, 2019 at 1:02 pm
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(March 5, 2019 at 11:46 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.
(March 5, 2019 at 10:33 am)CDF47 Wrote: I am not tangling up anything. There is fine-tuning everywhere.
Yes, yes we do constantly re-read your assertion about the find tuning thing since it and smart design are pretty much your only talking points.
What I was commenting on was you not tangling both together.
The start of everything does nothing to explain the subsequent smart design choices you're insisting that have subsequently been made.
Fine tuning is the innitial setting up of dominoes. Or the preparing of food before being cooked and laid out on plates and tables.
Your inteligent design should be explaining the recipe. It should be explaining not just that the dominoes fall but specifically explaining the pattern the dominoes are falling in.
Care to offer something to bolster your position CDF47?
No hurry. I bet there are lots of places/sites you can find to help every one come to a great understanding. :thumbsup:
My position is clearly stated throughout this thread. I explained there is the Creator's hand behind everything. He uses mutations as part of the design and some common DNA code and some similar body plans. Just not common ancestry.
(March 5, 2019 at 12:48 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (March 5, 2019 at 12:46 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Come on. Everyone knows the constants of the universe are fine-tuned as well as everything else.
The constants of the Universe?
What sort of tuning would be possible with those?
They are fine tuned to an unimaginable extent.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 5, 2019 at 1:05 pm
(March 5, 2019 at 1:02 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (March 5, 2019 at 12:48 pm)pocaracas Wrote: The constants of the Universe?
What sort of tuning would be possible with those?
They are fine tuned to an unimaginable extent.
So you don't know.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 5, 2019 at 1:07 pm
You guys have no one to blame but yourselves.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 5, 2019 at 1:09 pm
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(March 5, 2019 at 1:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You guys have no one to blame but yourselves.
Exactly this. This nonsense wouldn't have gone on for over 1200 pages if it weren't for people shoveling coal into the stupid furnace that is CDF. Leave it alone and it will die on the vine.
NB: I'm not exempting myself from the fault.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 5, 2019 at 1:33 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2019 at 1:39 pm by Peebothuhlu.)
At work.
(March 5, 2019 at 1:02 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (March 5, 2019 at 11:46 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Yes, yes we do constantly re-read your assertion about the find tuning thing since it and smart design are pretty much your only talking points.
What I was commenting on was you not tangling both together.
The start of everything does nothing to explain the subsequent smart design choices you're insisting that have subsequently been made.
Fine tuning is the innitial setting up of dominoes. Or the preparing of food before being cooked and laid out on plates and tables.
Your inteligent design should be explaining the recipe. It should be explaining not just that the dominoes fall but specifically explaining the pattern the dominoes are falling in.
Care to offer something to bolster your position CDF47?
No hurry. I bet there are lots of places/sites you can find to help every one come to a great understanding. :thumbsup:
My position is clearly stated throughout this thread. I explained there is the Creator's hand behind everything. He uses mutations as part of the design and some common DNA code and some similar body plans. Just not common ancestry.
Right. Yes, your position is that 'Your designer pokes the mutations such that they aren't completely random'.
I grok that statement.
My question is, again, the 'How' of your designer poking mutations such that they are not completely random.
Cheers. 
At work.
(March 5, 2019 at 1:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (March 5, 2019 at 1:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You guys have no one to blame but yourselves.
Exactly this. This nonsense wouldn't have gone on for over 1200 pages if it weren't for people shoveling coal into the stupid furnace that is CDF. Leave it alone and it will die on the vine.
NB: I'm not exempting myself from the fault.
Boru
Hey! CDF47 is a great person to interact with.
They certainly aren't the radical wing-nut that is Drich. Nor the passive/aggressive arrogant toe-rag that is MartinAbbot81. Nor the "Call you a fek-wit Yonadav".
So, there is that. 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 5, 2019 at 1:41 pm
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(March 5, 2019 at 1:05 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (March 5, 2019 at 1:02 pm)CDF47 Wrote: They are fine tuned to an unimaginable extent.
So you don't know.
I don't know every design detail in the universe, no. No one knows that but God. God has control of this place is how new information is implemented into the world with new body plans,....
(March 5, 2019 at 1:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You guys have no one to blame but yourselves.
There is nothing wrong with the thread. It is a good discussion is why I think it continues.
(March 5, 2019 at 1:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (March 5, 2019 at 1:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You guys have no one to blame but yourselves.
Exactly this. This nonsense wouldn't have gone on for over 1200 pages if it weren't for people shoveling coal into the stupid furnace that is CDF. Leave it alone and it will die on the vine.
NB: I'm not exempting myself from the fault.
Boru
I will just scream out into the void, LOL.
(March 5, 2019 at 1:33 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.
(March 5, 2019 at 1:02 pm)CDF47 Wrote: My position is clearly stated throughout this thread. I explained there is the Creator's hand behind everything. He uses mutations as part of the design and some common DNA code and some similar body plans. Just not common ancestry.
Right. Yes, your position is that 'Your designer pokes the mutations such that they aren't completely random'.
I grok that statement.
My question is, again, the 'How' of your designer poking mutations such that they are not completely random.
Cheers.
At work.
(March 5, 2019 at 1:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Exactly this. This nonsense wouldn't have gone on for over 1200 pages if it weren't for people shoveling coal into the stupid furnace that is CDF. Leave it alone and it will die on the vine.
NB: I'm not exempting myself from the fault.
Boru
Hey! CDF47 is a great person to interact with.
Thanks man! Never thought I would read that on this site. I appreciate that!!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 5, 2019 at 1:55 pm
At work.
Hey, I can aways insult you if you think it'll motivate you to answer that previous question? 
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