Not sure what that link is supposed to show; no way I'm reading through all that.

It's a private conversation between members of a white separatist identity movement that's been instrumental in organizing alt right rallies and churning out it's media notables and script.  Particularly online, but they also end up on networks like fox and cnn with amusing ticker titles obscuring or omitting the fact of who they are and what they represent.  

Briefly summarized, it presents their thoughts in line with the notion that the federal government is engaged in a conspiracy against it's citizens, particularly it's white supremacist  citizens, that they are victims rather than would-be oppressors in the final stages of prelude to race war in which hangs the balance of a white future.  It had it's roots in the confluence between the european identitarian movement a cynical conservative messaging campaign, but the latter lost control of it and are now seen as "cuckservatives".  

Part of a piece, really, as they've been finding amusing ways to coopt other mainstream conservative talking points as a way to advance their presence and ideology without the ideological barrier of white supremacy getting in the way.  Things like hanging up posters on overpasses warning motorists "Danger, Sharia City Ahead", or echoing mainstream  (and thus more socially acceptable) anti-immigrant rhetoric.  They're particularly active on college campuses, infiltrating student republican groups as covert recruiters. 

For reasons likely too long to fully address in this post (but I can toss you some links if you like) the two most successful messages from the standpoint of recruiting the unaligned are "free speech" and "hypocrisy" - so they lean hard into both like any competent recruiter would. The end result being not only that they grow their movement, but that people who don't recognize who they are or what their message is seemingly agreeing with their rhetoric, publicly, further normalizing the POV and shifting the overton window in their favor.

(March 9, 2019 at 9:39 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: It's a private conversation between members of a white separatist identity movement that's been instrumental in organizing alt right rallies and churning out it's media notables and script.  Particularly online, but they also end up on networks like fox and cnn with amusing ticker titles obscuring or omitting the fact of who they are and what they represent.  

Briefly summarized, it presents their thoughts in line with the notion that the federal government is engaged in a conspiracy against it's citizens, particularly it's white supremacist  citizens, that they are victims rather than would-be oppressors in the final stages of prelude to race war in which hangs the balance of a white future.  It had it's roots in the confluence between the european identitarian movement a cynical conservative messaging campaign, but the latter lost control of it and are now seen as "cuckservatives".  

Part of a piece, really, as they've been finding amusing ways to coopt other mainstream conservative talking points as a way to advance their presence and ideology without the ideological barrier of white supremacy getting in the way.  Things like hanging up posters on overpasses warning motorists "Danger, Sharia City Ahead", or echoing mainstream  (and thus more socially acceptable) anti-immigrant rhetoric.  They're particularly active on college campuses, infiltrating student republican groups as covert recruiters. 

For reasons likely too long to fully address in this post (but I can toss you some links if you like) the two most successful messages from the standpoint of recruiting the unaligned are "free speech" and "hypocrisy" - so they lean hard into both like any competent recruiter would.  The end result being not only that they grow their movement, but that people who don't recognize who they are or what their message is seemingly agreeing with their rhetoric, publicly, further normalizing the POV and shifting the overton window in their favor.

But Gae everyone knows white people are now oppressed and we can't call the right racists because that's "bullying "

That some white supremacists like the idea of free speech zones doesn't mean that everyone who supports free speech is a white supremacist. Let people speak their hate out in the open where we can chastise them and expose them for the fools that they are.

White Man's Burden! A missionary's racist assault on Ugandan hotel workers.
LOL..."Y'all stop disgracing JESUS, you disobedient n*gger bitches!"



The hotel employees managed to exercise extraordinary restraint in not kicking every square inch of this motherfucker's ass.
An amazing feat, IMO.

(March 9, 2019 at 4:20 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: That some white supremacists like the idea of free speech zones doesn't mean that everyone who supports free speech is a white supremacist. Let people speak their hate out in the open where we can chastise them and expose them for the fools that they are.

1. Never said that but there definitely a correlation between free speech warriors who simply want to spew there bullshit and avoid any consequences

2. Your idea doesn't work it's never worked

I’d be interested in your links Gae, either here or via pm

(March 9, 2019 at 4:20 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: That some white supremacists like the idea of free speech zones doesn't mean that everyone who supports free speech is a white supremacist. Let people speak their hate out in the open where we can chastise them and expose them for the fools that they are.

So after condescendingly lecturing others to quote the people they're responding to as not doing so comes off as cowardly, you are now failing to quote the person you're responding. And not just once, but twice lately in this thread (possibly more, but ain't counting). Does this make you a coward then? A hypocrite as well, perhaps?

(March 9, 2019 at 9:53 pm)Thena323 Wrote: White Man's Burden! A missionary's racist assault on Ugandan hotel workers.
LOL..."Y'all stop disgracing JESUS, you disobedient n*gger bitches!"

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The hotel employees managed to exercise extraordinary restraint in not kicking every square inch of this motherfucker's ass.
An amazing feat, IMO.

What a drunken idiot. They should've stomped his ass in the parking lot.

hotel workers: *won't give in to his drunken demands

Racist white dude: I'm sick of you disrespecting jesus

..lol what?

(March 9, 2019 at 10:15 pm)Amarok Wrote: 1. Never said that but there definitely a correlation between free speech warriors who simply want to spew there bullshit and avoid any consequences

Promoting free speech =/= white supremacy or hate speech.

(March 9, 2019 at 10:15 pm)Amarok Wrote: 2. Your idea doesn't work it's never worked

Huh? Klan members and members of the Westboro Baptist Church are openly allowed to hold demonstrations, protests and rallies... It's not like they're taking over society. Most people see them as a complete joke and something to be mocked and made fun of and nothing more.

What are you talking about?

(March 9, 2019 at 11:17 pm)Grandizer Wrote: So after condescendingly lecturing others to quote the people they're responding to as not doing so comes off as cowardly, you are now failing to quote the person you're responding. And not just once, but twice lately in this thread (possibly more, but ain't counting). Does this make you a coward then? A hypocrite as well, perhaps?

Go fuck yourself loser. I show people the same level of respect they show me. When you start to show me you have no respect for me, you'll get the same thing right back.

You jumped on the opportunity to call me out like a bitch in heat. You must have a thing for me.

Take the hint: I'm not interested. Fuck off, nerd.

@EgoDeath

"Klan members and members of the Westboro Baptist Church are openly allowed to hold demonstrations, protests and rallies."

Westboro Baptist church members were refused visa to enter Oz. This was to protect them; if they tried any of their shit here enraged mourners would give the bastards the horse whipping so long deferred.

Australia has no Bill Of Rights and free speech is not guaranteed in our constitution.

WE don't have the KKK in Oz. I do seem to remember there was one once. I think somebody shot him. Really? No, not really, I can't back that up.