(March 13, 2019 at 2:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

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(March 13, 2019 at 2:51 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: The thing is it doesn't matter what you believe it matters what you can prove.

As we have seen you believe rather a lot of silly things so I will take your opinion with a pinch of salt.

Again, it takes good judgment and discernment often to tell fact from fiction. Which conspiracies of the ones I listed do you think are false?

(March 13, 2019 at 3:03 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(March 13, 2019 at 2:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

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Again, it takes good judgment and discernment often to tell fact from fiction. Which conspiracies of the ones I listed do you think are false?

The JFK one. There is no proof of a conspiracy, but there was a film. I think you would prefer to get your "facts" from fantasy.
I say that on the basis of your major beliefs i.e. the bible, a rather silly tome.

(March 13, 2019 at 2:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 13, 2019 at 2:45 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: So in fact, by saying that, you just demonstrated yet again, you know nothing about human genetics.


So much for your bs about the "fall".

Wrong.

Yes, it does have to do with the fall.  Adam and Eve may have had perfect genes before the fall.

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LOL. And then your idiot "loving god" went in and changed the perfect genes to imperfect ones.
Like "hmmmm, which genes should I change to give babies leukemia".
Do you even recognize how idiotic all the bs is ?
There is no evidence that human genes ever changed or were ever in a "percfect" state.

(March 13, 2019 at 3:18 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(March 13, 2019 at 2:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Wrong.

Yes, it does have to do with the fall.  Adam and Eve may have had perfect genes before the fall.

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LOL. And then your idiot "loving god" went in and changed the perfect genes to imperfect ones.
Like "hmmmm, which genes should I change to give babies leukemia".
Do you even recognize how idiotic all the bs is ?
There is no evidence that human genes ever changed or were ever in a "percfect" state.

(March 13, 2019 at 9:43 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 12, 2019 at 10:05 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

Cool CDF47! So then you're finally up with the fact that mt  Eve and yAdam are definitely NOT what you were previously purporting them to be.

Next!

By definition:
"In human genetics, the Mitochondrial Eve (also mt-Eve, mt-MRCA) is the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (MRCA) of all currently living , i.e., the most recent woman from whom all living humans descend in an unbroken line purely through their mothers, and through the mothers of those mothers, back until all lines converge on one woman."

Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

Quote:Not a fixed individual over time[edit]
The definition of mitochondrial Eve is fixed, but the woman in prehistory who fits this definition can change. That is, not only can our knowledge of when and where Mitochondrial Eve lived change due to new discoveries, but the actual mitochondrial Eve can change. The mitochondrial Eve can change, when a mother-daughter line comes to an end by chance. It follows from the definition of Mitochondrial Eve that she had at least two daughters who both have unbroken female lineages that have survived to the present day. In every generation mitochondrial lineages end – when a woman with unique mtDNA dies with no daughters. When the mitochondrial lineages of daughters of mitochondrial Eve die out, then the title of "Mitochondrial Eve" shifts forward from the remaining daughter through her matrilineal descendants, until the first descendant is reached who had two or more daughters who together have all living humans as their matrilineal descendants. Once a lineage has died out it is irretrievably lost and this mechanism can thus only shift the title of "Mitochondrial Eve" forward in time.

(March 13, 2019 at 9:43 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 13, 2019 at 1:48 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: I doubt it. The "all humans came from one man and one woman" lie will reappear. Nevertheless, he can't possibly claim not to be a liar anymore. Without lying.

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Sure you do. But do you accept that you have been wilfully wrong all this time?

No, I have not been wrong.  See the definition in my post above.  This is what I thought it meant.  I read the misconceptions but that does not rule out what I said.  It does not rule out that we all descend from one woman (or one man).

(March 13, 2019 at 4:27 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

Here's the thing CDF47.

The ENTIRE scientific feild and concensus disagrees with/finds your point of veiw wrong.

Not individual opinion. The entire field of genetics etc makes the case for things such as 'Common descent'.
The theory as a whole has taken on board the discoveries of chemistry, geology, physics, genetics. The list goes on.

The 'Creationist' side of things continue to show a paucity of, heck, pretty much of anything that's even coherant.

Tell me what. You go off and get ALL. The entire feild of Creationists to agree on the age of the Earth. You come back with a total concensus of the field and we'll talk again.

Deal?

(March 13, 2019 at 4:05 pm)CDF47 Wrote: How much investigation has ever gone into that?

(March 13, 2019 at 4:55 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: What I find amusing is that those things which inform us of mitochondrial eve, his misconceptions lain entirely aside, are the -same- things that inform us of common ancestry.  Blunty, mt-eve is a comment on common ancestry.

If we can't trust genetics on common ancestry, then we can't trust genetics on common ancestry....as in so many other areas, this nutball needs to make up his mind.

(March 13, 2019 at 5:03 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(March 13, 2019 at 9:43 am)CDF47 Wrote: By definition:
"In human genetics, the Mitochondrial Eve (also mt-Eve, mt-MRCA) is the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (MRCA) of all currently living , i.e., the most recent woman from whom all living humans descend in an unbroken line purely through their mothers, and through the mothers of those mothers, back until all lines converge on one woman."

Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

From the fucking page...

Quote:Not a fixed individual over time[edit]
The definition of mitochondrial Eve is fixed, but the woman in prehistory who fits this definition can change. That is, not only can our knowledge of when and where Mitochondrial Eve lived change due to new discoveries, but the actual mitochondrial Eve can change. The mitochondrial Eve can change, when a mother-daughter line comes to an end by chance. It follows from the definition of Mitochondrial Eve that she had at least two daughters who both have unbroken female lineages that have survived to the present day. In every generation mitochondrial lineages end – when a woman with unique mtDNA dies with no daughters. When the mitochondrial lineages of daughters of mitochondrial Eve die out, then the title of "Mitochondrial Eve" shifts forward from the remaining daughter through her matrilineal descendants, until the first descendant is reached who had two or more daughters who together have all living humans as their matrilineal descendants. Once a lineage has died out it is irretrievably lost and this mechanism can thus only shift the title of "Mitochondrial Eve" forward in time.

You didn't read that far because you are a moron and a shallow moron at that.

(March 13, 2019 at 9:43 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, I have not been wrong.  See the definition in my post above.  This is what I thought it meant.  I read the misconceptions but that does not rule out what I said.  It does not rule out that we all descend from one woman (or one man).

See my response above. You are wrong. The individual who is currently mtEve will not be so for very long before one of the daughters inherits the title.

Take your lies and shove them.

ETA: mtEve must have two daughters minimum. Bible Eve has none and therefore cannot be mtEve. You simply have not figured out the significance of the term "matrilineal".

(March 13, 2019 at 5:51 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(March 13, 2019 at 4:05 pm)CDF47 Wrote: How much investigation has ever gone into that?

I thought you said you knew about genetics.