(March 15, 2019 at 2:23 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Case in point.   You professed the articles of your faith, again, rather than answer the question in any back and forth that could be called a discussion while simultaneously lying about the interaction which is right there in black and white for anyone to read......again.

Here's another one for you to answer whenever you get around to answering questions. Can you see how this is detrimental to peoples opinion of you, and by extension your faith as an advocate?

What are you talking about? What did I say that looks wrong? Quote à source.

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(March 15, 2019 at 5:20 pm)fredd bear Wrote:

(March 15, 2019 at 2:15 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Quit for what. I'm just discussing my favorite topic on here. Not too concerned about my rep among atheists.

 Bullshit!

If that were the case, you would not be on an atheist forum. It's clear to me that you care very much what a bunch of atheists think. 

Now that you mention it, why ARE you here?  Do you seriously think you are going to find a convert here?  Do you enjoy people being rude and insulting to you? Or do you think you're stacking up brownie points with Jesus? ( I can kind of understand that, in context)

I am here to tell you the truth I found in science. There is a Creator.

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(March 15, 2019 at 6:36 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(March 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I can't prove they met. 

That is foundational to your irrational "faith", but you brush it under the rug because it is just to inconvenient. Just like you pretend mtEve was one individual when she is not.

(March 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Scripturally, they did.

Scripturally

Snakes can talk
Donkeys can talk
Pi is 3
Bats are birds
And so on. Your magic book contains so many absurdities it is hilarious.

Oh and bible Eve had no daughters and thus by definition cannot be mtEve.

(March 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm)CDF47 Wrote: There was incest in the beginning to populate the Earth. 

And we all know your magic book approves of incest. And since it does, you do. On top of everything else, you are a pervert.

(March 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Some had many sons and daughters and others had few to none.

Eve had no daughters. Cain porked his mom.

(March 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This is the way it worked out.

This explains a lot. Your god is really too thick to figure out anything much and you feel the need to emulate him.

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(March 15, 2019 at 2:19 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I've been discussing this since I got here last year. My opinion in most regards is unchanged.

You have discussed nothing. You have bleated the same thing over and over again unthinkingly. That is why you have not changed your opinion.

You steadfastly refuse to do any thinking for yourself. Why would anyone be surprised your opinions have not changed? You cannot change them because they are not yours in the first place. You have been indoctrinated without understanding. Thus you cannot examine your own beliefs in any way because you fundamentally just regurgitate someone elses beliefs as if they were your own. This is why, when challenged, the best you can muster is to simply repeat the stupid claims like an automaton.

It's too bad you feel that way.

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(March 15, 2019 at 8:12 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:

(March 15, 2019 at 2:19 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Who are these experts that say they didn't ever meet?

I believe in a common descent among humans. I believe Adam and Eve were the first humans some couple hundred thousand years ago.

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What?

You now beleieve mtEve and YAdam actually did coexist and that they were alive only a short time ago?

WHAT?

I thought you said you were NOT a Young Earth Creationist?

Besides the fact that the very links yo've provided SHOW that there's a huge time diffrence in the biological clock between mtEve and YAdam.

Fek me. It's two steps forwards.... cartwheel back some times with you CDF47.

Re-read my post. I said a couple hundred thousand as in 200,000 or so. Could even be 450,000 years.

The original Mt-Eve and Y-Adam I believe were Adam and Eve. It has not been disproven.

(March 15, 2019 at 8:22 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The original Mt-Eve and Y-Adam I believe were Adam and Eve.  It has not been disproven.

You believe that the original mt-Eve and Y-Adam are the biblical Adam and Eve correct?

Therefore you're essentially saying that mt-Eve and Y-Adam are contemporaries yes?

Well... no, a 2013 study concluded that mt-Eve lived around 140,000 years after Y-Adam[1]

Research into this area is still ongoing..

It is still highly unlikely mt-Eve and Y-Adam were contemporaries.

Sources:

[1] The Father of All Men

(March 15, 2019 at 9:02 pm)TwoKnives99 Wrote:

(March 15, 2019 at 8:22 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The original Mt-Eve and Y-Adam I believe were Adam and Eve.  It has not been disproven.

You believe that the original mt-Eve and Y-Adam are the biblical Adam and Eve correct?

Therefore you're essentially saying that mt-Eve and Y-Adam are contemporaries yes?

Well... no, a 2013 study concluded that mt-Eve lived around 140,000 years after Y-Adam[1]

Research into this area is still ongoing..

It is still highly unlikely mt-Eve and Y-Adam were contemporaries.

Sources:

[1] The Father of All Men

The link didn't work.

"I am here to tell you the truth I found in science. There is a Creator."

What an arrogant, and false claim.


The common response to that claim is science proves no such thing.

You claimed to have read a lot of science books over the years. Your posts show that you are either lying or understood, and understand little about science and the scientific method.

Doesn't matter to me you understand. It is you who have made the claim that science proves a creator. That means the burden of proof is yours. Not even close yet.

I truly wish you were right. I would love to believe. I did not choose to be an atheist. It was for me a journey of decades, the conclusion inevitable

Unfortunately, you simply don't come across as a scientist or even as a person capable of rational discussion. Just another deeply ignorant and arrogant Christian apologist. That means your credibility is 0.00.

(March 15, 2019 at 11:13 pm)fredd bear Wrote: "I am here to tell you the truth I found in science. There is a Creator."

What an arrogant, and false claim.


The common response to that claim is science proves no such thing.

You claimed to have read a lot of science books over the years. Your posts show that you are either lying or understood, and understand little about science and the scientific method.

Doesn't matter to me you understand. It is you who have made the claim that science proves a creator. That means the burden of proof is yours. Not even close yet.

I truly wish you were right. I would love to believe. I did not choose to be an atheist. It was for me a journey of decades, the conclusion inevitable

Unfortunately, you simply don't come across as a scientist or even as a person capable of rational discussion. Just another deeply ignorant and arrogant Christian apologist. That means your credibility is 0.00.

If the information in DNA doesn't make you a believer or the fine-tuned universe then nothing will.

(March 15, 2019 at 10:47 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 14, 2019 at 10:58 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Why lie, it's not as if the boards disappeared since you last posted.  I'll wait.

I already answered your question. You may not have liked the answer.

It not like you had any qualifications or education in the field. 
You're actually no kind of expert on anything to do with the subject, (and neither is the fool whose book you took this crap from).
Your answers are nothing but ignorant nonsense. 

Do you actually think, a few thousand years from now, humans will still look back at one of the many wandering miracle workers from the Levant as anyone they need to know about or care about ? Human knowledge is advancing at a geometric rate. Religions have no future. Creationists are laughed at and ridiculed the world over.

(March 15, 2019 at 11:42 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(March 15, 2019 at 10:47 am)CDF47 Wrote: I already answered your question. You may not have liked the answer.

It not like you had any qualifications or education in the field. 
Your answers are nothing but ignorant nonsense. 
Do you actually think, a few thousand years from now, humans will still look back at one of the many wandering miracle workers from the Levant as anyone they need to know about or care about ? Human knowledge is advancing at a geometric rate. Religions have no future. Creationists are laughed at and ridiculed the world over.

They are expected to mock and ridicule. It's in the Scriptures.

(March 15, 2019 at 11:20 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 15, 2019 at 11:13 pm)fredd bear Wrote: "I am here to tell you the truth I found in science. There is a Creator."

What an arrogant, and false claim.


The common response to that claim is science proves no such thing.

You claimed to have read a lot of science books over the years. Your posts show that you are either lying or understood, and understand little about science and the scientific method.

Doesn't matter to me you understand. It is you who have made the claim that science proves a creator. That means the burden of proof is yours. Not even close yet.

I truly wish you were right. I would love to believe. I did not choose to be an atheist.  It was for me a journey of decades, the conclusion inevitable

Unfortunately,  you simply don't come across as  a scientist or even as a person capable of rational discussion. Just another deeply ignorant and arrogant Christian apologist. That means your credibility is 0.00.

If the information in DNA doesn't make you a believer or the fine-tuned universe then nothing will.

So then, you work is done. It was all a failure and a waste of time. 
You're leaving now ? 

A fine tuned universe is an argument against the gods. A real god could make life happen , no matter what the conditions are.

This is not good for my rage.

(March 15, 2019 at 11:51 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 15, 2019 at 11:42 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: It not like you had any qualifications or education in the field. 
Your answers are nothing but ignorant nonsense. 
Do you actually think, a few thousand years from now, humans will still look back at one of the many wandering miracle workers from the Levant as anyone they need to know about or care about ? Human knowledge is advancing at a geometric rate. Religions have no future. Creationists are laughed at and ridiculed the world over.

They are expected to mock and ridicule. It's in the Scriptures.

Well, the hucksters who concocted the “scripture” were no great intellects, but than it doesn’t take much huckster conning to overawe gullible nincompoops like you.