https://www.huffpost.com/entry/new-zeala...4fec342b43

Still a developing story.

That was fast!

Locks are made for honest people.

(March 20, 2019 at 10:57 pm)chimp3 Wrote: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/new-zeala...4fec342b43

Still a developing story.

That was fast!

 The result I expected, from a lucid people who are more interested in the safety of their citizens than with upsetting a few gun nuts.( of which there are very few in New Zealand. ) There is no 'gun lobby' to speak of in NZ. Thank the FSM.

Oz did the same thing in 1996, after the Pt Arthur massacre. We also had a massive buy back of perhaps 'questionable' guns. No questions asked. The government spent around $200 million of OUR money. I was never happier with an expense incurred by government. Today it is very difficult to legally own any kind of firearm here.

Currently NZ does not have any significant gun registration laws. Around 80% of all guns are unregistered.

I would love to see the result of anyone even suggesting such a ban in the US.

(March 20, 2019 at 11:35 pm)fredd bear Wrote:

(March 20, 2019 at 10:57 pm)chimp3 Wrote: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/new-zeala...4fec342b43

Still a developing story.

That was fast!

 The result I expected, from a lucid people who are more interested in the safety of their citizens than with upsetting a few gun nuts.( of which there are very few in New Zealand. ) There is no 'gun lobby' to speak of in NZ. Thank the FSM.

Oz did the same thing in 1996, after the Pt Arthur massacre. We also had a massive buy back of perhaps 'questionable' guns. No questions asked. The government spent around $200 million of OUR money. I was never happier with an expense incurred by government. Today it is very difficult to legally own any kind of firearm here.

Currently NZ does not have any significant gun registration laws. Around 80% of all guns are unregistered.

I would love to see the result of anyone even suggesting such a ban in the US.

That's part of the problem. This prick bought the guns legally on one class of licence and then modified them to a level that would require another class of licence to purchase.

NZ is talking about a buy back scheme as well. It's a fair idea. The only ones who should face consequences (lose money) are those who panic bought this type of weapon after the terrorist attack.

NZ has one incident and the law gets changed in less than a week, the USA dozens and changes nothing, I know where I would prefer to live.

More than assault weapons. I do believe it includes any semi auto, so we can be talking about handguns too. And they are limiting clip size for all firearms. Good for them. And only took a week. America could stand to listen to our allies.

The difference between the US and NZ on this issue is that, when 50 people are shot to death, Kiwis are able to grasp that guns might (mind you I said 'might') be part of the problem.

Boru

(March 21, 2019 at 6:18 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The difference between the US and NZ on this issue is that, when 50 people are shot to death, Kiwis are able to grasp that guns might (mind you I said 'might') be part of the problem.

Boru

Yes, but moreso our worship than the object itself. 40 years ago the NRA went from being a safety org to being a industry lobby. Since then the industry marketing has marketed firearms like toys and the tools of comic book super heros. There was a time when firearms in America were treated like the deadly objects they are and we had a better grasp of treating them as such.

Americans have to simply face the fact that this isn't 1776, and just like we don't use rotary phones en mass anymore, firearm technology is no longer merely muskets. 

The worst part of how the far right reacts to things like this, is that the fact remains that NZ still is not banning all firearms, but merely doing the responsible thing to insure they are kept out of the wrong hands.

And the other nonsense the right doesn't face is that they keep using the bullshit line, "Don't punish responsible gun owners." The NZ shooter had no record at the time of buy, and legally bought them. That blows away the argument of trying to make legal vs illegal, the issue. One can fly under the radar, be disturbed and buy a firearm legally only to end up doing sick shit like that.

GOOD!

(March 20, 2019 at 11:00 pm)no one Wrote: Locks are made for honest people.

Locks don't prevent someone with no record, legally buying them and harming someone after a legal buy.

It is nonsense to claim someone with no record cant go on to hurt someone else after a legal buy. The NZ shooter legally bought his.