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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
April 23, 2019 at 9:17 am
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Scientists getting things wrong all the time wouldn't help your case - it would hurt it. Just as before, however, it doesn't really matter...not even to you. You don't think that scientists get things wrong all the time, you think that a tinkergod made everything. Think about how many times you've used phrases like "science agrees" or "science proves this". Consider your preference, in thread, for superficially "scientific" credentials over some priest.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
April 23, 2019 at 9:18 am
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(April 22, 2019 at 8:30 pm)Amarok Wrote: (April 22, 2019 at 6:03 pm)madog Wrote: Whats your thoughts on an opposition that claims victory because you won't watch a video they present and then when you do it has nothing to do with the debate? then they lie about it when called out? Or demands you engage with there "arguments" and "evidence ' without actually engaging it and just proclaiming a bunch of psedo logic mixed with " I don't have to show it's true you have to show it's wrong "
I showed it to be true and it is impossible to be shown wrong.
(April 22, 2019 at 8:55 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: (April 22, 2019 at 11:07 am)CDF47 Wrote:
This is just more discussion for me. The debate was won with the first post in this thread in the OP, LOL.
Oh, I forgot to mention that you lie a lot too. Sorry, but you started off this discussion with unsupported assertions based upon your own incredulity and ignorance, and nothing more. As I said before, you're really not very good at this. There are several viable models to explain the origins of DNA and its properties. Get an education, numb nuts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Models_of_DNA_evolution
I have no problem with micro-evolution and adaptation.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
April 23, 2019 at 9:22 am
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(April 23, 2019 at 9:13 am)CDF47 Wrote: [quote='madog' pid='1903106' dateline='1555965689']
So where is the apology? He doesn't show things are designed, he claims things are designed, based on his personal incredulity and argument from ignorance.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
April 23, 2019 at 9:22 am
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(April 23, 2019 at 9:16 am)Kit Wrote: At least science admits when it's wrong, so that it can learn from its mistakes, while theism wallows in its misguidedness.
They do not admit to being wrong. The science of today with evolution is about 100 years out of sorts. Textbooks are like 20 to 30 years behind the times. All the things they got wrong over these years are not always addressed and sometimes never addressed.
(April 23, 2019 at 9:17 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Scientists getting things wrong all the time wouldn't help your case - it would hurt it. Just as before, however, it doesn't really matter...not even to you. You don't think that scientists get things wrong all the time, you think that a tinkergod made everything. Think about how many times you've used phrases like "science agrees" or "science proves this". Consider your preference, in thread, for superficially "scientific" credentials over some priest.
I said DNA proves, not science.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
April 23, 2019 at 9:23 am
(April 23, 2019 at 9:22 am)CDF47 Wrote: They do not admit to being wrong. The science of today with evolution is about 100 years out of sorts. Textbooks are like 20 to 30 years behind the times. All the things they got wrong over these years are not always addressed and sometimes never addressed.
Keep deluding yourself. 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
April 23, 2019 at 9:25 am
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(April 23, 2019 at 9:18 am)CDF47 Wrote: I showed it to be true and it is impossible to be shown wrong. It's impossible for you to believe otherwise, but consider this...it doesn't actually matter to you whether you really showed anything to be true and you don't really spend much thought on logical impossibility.
You would and do believe in that which cannot be shown, and your beliefs aren't threatened by the impossibility of any act.
Quote:I have no problem with micro-evolution and adaptation.
You very much do have a problem with both, but it doesn't matter, as you're sure that it didn't happen to you and that's what counts.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
April 23, 2019 at 9:25 am
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(April 23, 2019 at 9:22 am)CDF47 Wrote: (April 23, 2019 at 9:16 am)Kit Wrote: At least science admits when it's wrong, so that it can learn from its mistakes, while theism wallows in its misguidedness.
They do not admit to being wrong. The science of today with evolution is about 100 years out of sorts. Textbooks are like 20 to 30 years behind the times. All the things they got wrong over these years are not always addressed and sometimes never addressed. I wonder how you know science got something wrong when it never admitted to it or addressed it?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
April 23, 2019 at 9:28 am
Magic books says that there was a dirt man and a rib woman. His only gripe is that the conspiracy of atheist science fails to acknowledge that this must be a fact.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
April 23, 2019 at 9:38 am
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(April 23, 2019 at 9:23 am)Kit Wrote: (April 23, 2019 at 9:22 am)CDF47 Wrote: They do not admit to being wrong. The science of today with evolution is about 100 years out of sorts. Textbooks are like 20 to 30 years behind the times. All the things they got wrong over these years are not always addressed and sometimes never addressed.
Keep deluding yourself.
Not quite.
(April 23, 2019 at 9:25 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: (April 23, 2019 at 9:18 am)CDF47 Wrote: I showed it to be true and it is impossible to be shown wrong. It's impossible for you to believe otherwise, but consider this...it doesn't actually matter to you whether you really showed anything to be true and you don't really spend much thought on logical impossibility.
You would and do believe in that which cannot be shown, and your beliefs aren't threatened by the impossibility of any act.
Quote:I have no problem with micro-evolution and adaptation.
You very much do have a problem with both, but it doesn't matter, as you're sure that it didn't happen to you and that's what counts.
I have faith in the things that cannot be seen but I used reason to discover there is a Designer.
I have no problem with it.
(April 23, 2019 at 9:25 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: (April 23, 2019 at 9:22 am)CDF47 Wrote: They do not admit to being wrong. The science of today with evolution is about 100 years out of sorts. Textbooks are like 20 to 30 years behind the times. All the things they got wrong over these years are not always addressed and sometimes never addressed. I wonder how you know science got something wrong when it never admitted to it or addressed it?
It gets pointed out by other scientists (not the establishment).
(April 23, 2019 at 9:28 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Magic books says that there was a dirt man and a rib woman. His only gripe is that the conspiracy of atheist science fails to acknowledge that this must be a fact.
Even science states we came from the dust of a star that exploded billions of years ago. Even the iron in our blood was once at the core of a star. We are made of dust as the Bible states.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
April 23, 2019 at 9:57 am
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(April 23, 2019 at 9:38 am)CDF47 Wrote: (April 23, 2019 at 9:25 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: It's impossible for you to believe otherwise, but consider this...it doesn't actually matter to you whether you really showed anything to be true and you don't really spend much thought on logical impossibility.
You would and do believe in that which cannot be shown, and your beliefs aren't threatened by the impossibility of any act.
You very much do have a problem with both, but it doesn't matter, as you're sure that it didn't happen to you and that's what counts.
I have faith in the things that cannot be seen but I used reason to discover there is a Designer.
I have no problem with it. The first and best lies we tell are the ones we tell ourselves.
You didn't reason your way to belief if the process involved anything you've mentioned in all of these many pages. Why engage in this little charade to begin with, though? You and I both know that's not how you came to your beliefs - and that's okay-...just as you and I both know that you very much do take issue with the notion that you're an evolved ape.
IMO, you need to work more on being comfortable and honest with your faith and less on rationalizing it to atheists and yourself ad hoc.
Quote: (April 23, 2019 at 9:28 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Magic books says that there was a dirt man and a rib woman. His only gripe is that the conspiracy of atheist science fails to acknowledge that this must be a fact.
Even science states we came from the dust of a star that exploded billions of years ago. Even the iron in our blood was once at the core of a star. We are made of dust as the Bible states. "Magic book says".
IDK what use it would be to point to what "science states", when scientists get things wrong all the time. Science also states that magic book was comically wrong about space, the stars, and our origins. Pick a lane.
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