(June 25, 2019 at 12:21 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(June 25, 2019 at 10:10 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

Hey Drich.

I don't deny any dieties.

I just don't see/know of anything to indicate that any dieties exist.

Cheers.

Ditto. I am perfectly willing to examine any evidence pertaining to the existence of God(s), but nothing credible has ever been presented to me, thus far. And the theists' claim that they simply "know" God exists is nothing more than self-delusion which can apply to ANY religion.

Not so with Islam. The religion of God is the ISLAM. I have proof that the Koran is the Word of God. I will write an article about it in the thread "Stupid Christians look to ban good auguries". I hope you find the Truth (God) through Reason and Religion. If you want to open a thread and we talk about any topic about God and Islam (I can not open any thread) and let me know.

(June 29, 2019 at 8:21 pm)soldierofGod Wrote:

(June 25, 2019 at 12:21 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: Ditto. I am perfectly willing to examine any evidence pertaining to the existence of God(s), but nothing credible has ever been presented to me, thus far. And the theists' claim that they simply "know" God exists is nothing more than self-delusion which can apply to ANY religion.

Not so with Islam. The religion of God is the ISLAM. I have proof that the Koran is the Word of God. I will write an article about it in the thread "Stupid Christians look to ban good auguries". I hope you find the Truth (God) through Reason and Religion. If you want to open a thread and we talk about any topic about God and Islam (I can not open any thread) and let me know.

Not so with Pastafarianism. The religion of God is the Pastafarianism I have proof that the Doctrine of FSM is the Word of God. I will write an article about it in the thread "Stupid Muslims look to ban good arguments". I hope you find the Truth (FSM) through Reason and Religion. If you want to open a thread and we talk about any topic about FSM and Pastafarianism (I can not open any thread, I have jam on my fingers) and let me know.

Bless.
RAmen

(May 27, 2019 at 7:57 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: I'm seeking information on whether or not the biblical Adam & Eve story was derived from earlier myths, such a Babylonian or Sumerian creation stories. Please include citations and or links. Thank you. 

Adam and Eve seem to be purely a Judeo-Christian concept.

From what I can gather, origins in religions predating the unholy trinity did not revolve around one man and one woman. Rather, the gods were of more importance.

Unfortunately, our current OT is a 9th century copy and rabbis fucked with it so as not to point to Jesus as the mashiyach. Fortunately, we have the Septuagint which is a Greek translation of the OT which predates Jesus. Modern Christianity does not understand Hebraisms or Hebrew thinking, the Jewish life, and so are clueless. They superimpose their theology onto the OT and fucked it all up! Words reveal thinking. "Father" to a Jew means 'The Head of the House' NOT your daddy! 


I have no problem with the Genesis account of Adam and Eve nor with nature. My problem is with theology and science. Both had to go to school to learn how to be that stupid!

(June 25, 2019 at 9:35 am)Drich Wrote: or maybe back then people simply knew how to follow directions and it is all but impossible to deny God when his presences is known. maybe you guys simply figured out if you hide behind science and demand god play your game you can remain in ignorance and pretend he does not exist. However if and when you seek him on his terms no pretending is going to save you from the truth.

And you "know" God exists..........how?

(June 30, 2019 at 4:24 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(June 25, 2019 at 9:35 am)Drich Wrote: or maybe back then people simply knew how to follow directions and it is all but impossible to deny God when his presences is known. maybe you guys simply figured out if you hide behind science and demand god play your game you can remain in ignorance and pretend he does not exist. However if and when you seek him on his terms no pretending is going to save you from the truth.

And you "know" God exists..........how?

The mental hospitals are full of individuals who believe that the Sun is communicating with them; you can't argue with these people.

(June 30, 2019 at 10:24 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(June 30, 2019 at 4:24 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: And you "know" God exists..........how?

The mental hospitals are full of individuals who believe that the Sun is communicating with them; you can't argue with these people.

Well, at least we can see the sun. 

(July 1, 2019 at 3:23 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(June 30, 2019 at 10:24 pm)Jehanne Wrote: The mental hospitals are full of individuals who believe that the Sun is communicating with them; you can't argue with these people.

Well, at least we can see the sun. 

And we know why the sun burns us.

(June 29, 2019 at 8:21 pm)soldierofGod Wrote:

(June 25, 2019 at 12:21 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: Ditto. I am perfectly willing to examine any evidence pertaining to the existence of God(s), but nothing credible has ever been presented to me, thus far. And the theists' claim that they simply "know" God exists is nothing more than self-delusion which can apply to ANY religion.

Not so with Islam. The religion of God is the ISLAM. I have proof that the Koran is the Word of God. I will write an article about it in the thread "Stupid Christians look to ban good auguries". I hope you find the Truth (God) through Reason and Religion. If you want to open a thread and we talk about any topic about God and Islam (I can not open any thread) and let me know.

Over a decade of comparative religious study brought me to the realization that atheism is the rational conclusion. I'm still open to reasonable arguments, however. Give it your best shot.

(June 30, 2019 at 4:24 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(June 25, 2019 at 9:35 am)Drich Wrote: or maybe back then people simply knew how to follow directions and it is all but impossible to deny God when his presences is known. maybe you guys simply figured out if you hide behind science and demand god play your game you can remain in ignorance and pretend he does not exist. However if and when you seek him on his terms no pretending is going to save you from the truth.

And you "know" God exists..........how?

Because when you seek God on HIS terms God shows up.

For me God showed up directly in the way of my Judgement/Hell dream and in the way of an angel/messenger who told me of my past strife and prayers of my current situation and of my future, all of which was true and a great majority of the future stuff did indeed happen.
Both of these stories are document here:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-13378.html
https://atheistforums.org/thread-15622.html

Then in passively I have access to God's wisdom which is displayed in business (2 US patents for "green refrigeration system) which we sold and rolled into our little shop which brought us from a local business to one who deals internationally. also It would seem I have an insite to how scripture works and can generally answers any question concerning God or the bible IE being able to assimilate the whole of evolutionary theory into a 7 day creation with out changing a word of either the bible or the current evolutionary model.

All without any formal training or schooling of any kind in these fields. matter of fact when i graduated high school I could not read past 4th grade level, and what i could read I could not extrapolate information from/everything went into deciphering what was on page. I started with commic books to teach my self how to read and then moved on to the bible.

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I am not alone as most believers believe because in one form or another God has shown up in their lives.

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(June 30, 2019 at 10:24 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(June 30, 2019 at 4:24 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: And you "know" God exists..........how?

The mental hospitals are full of individuals who believe that the Sun is communicating with them; you can't argue with these people.

when the sun says it will be hot today are you a fool who wears a jacket? when the sun says it will be cold today will you wear a tank top? or are you a fool who does not understand solar out put is not constant? meaning the sun does not radiate the same level of light and heat all the time? Or are you too stupid to understand that the fluctuations in solar out put is an indicator or form of communication that not only can tell you how to plan a day but week month or year? thankfully there are much smarter people who know how to 'communicate or read the sun and plant crops and raise live stock by it.

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(July 1, 2019 at 3:32 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(June 29, 2019 at 8:21 pm)soldierofGod Wrote: Not so with Islam. The religion of God is the ISLAM. I have proof that the Koran is the Word of God. I will write an article about it in the thread "Stupid Christians look to ban good auguries". I hope you find the Truth (God) through Reason and Religion. If you want to open a thread and we talk about any topic about God and Islam (I can not open any thread) and let me know.

Over a decade of comparative religious study brought me to the realization that atheism is the rational conclusion. I'm still open to reasonable arguments, however. Give it your best shot.

what religions did you compare and how? what specifically did you look at? how did you test what each religion offered?

See I actually did what you are claiming and do have some idea of what it takes to critically examine a religion.