(July 10, 2019 at 2:48 pm)Drich Wrote:

(July 10, 2019 at 2:36 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I haven’t read the others yet, but I found that first article to be laden with racist insinuations. Is it just me?

because it is always best to read what you want into one of 4 citations (that include the black wall street times) and then assume the worst.. you people kill me with how you are trained to race bait each other look for key words and stop thinking for yourselves and assume the worst..

how about this why don't you post the section that seem out of sorts to you just cut and paste. rather than make a sweeping dismissal of 4 sources that all say the same thing without any real evidence of any impropriety!

Who’s dismissing anything? I just said I haven’t read the other three articles yet. I have two kids to care for, ya know. As far as the first one goes, the author’s hypothesis seems to be ‘poor black communities are poor because their families are broken, and their families are broken because black ladies just wanna have babies out of wedlock.’ In fact, that’s really the closest she comes to attributing any sort of cause to the high incidence of children born into single-parent homes in these communities. “Because they just want to” as an explanation is not only a blanket assumption, it would be difficult, if not impossible to test. She also fails to mention other factors that likely contribute to children growing up fatherless, like the disproportionately high incarceration rates and lengthy prison sentences of black men in this country. At the end of the day, correlation doesn’t equal causation. Are many poor, black families broken because of cyclic poverty and disadvantage, or is there cyclic poverty and disadvantage in black communities because they tend not to have cohesive family structures? Or, is even that question an oversimplification of the issue framed in as false dichotomy? All I know is, ‘they don’t marry before having kids because that’s just how black folk are’ is a pretty racist hypothesis, IMO.

Here’s the exact quote:

Quote:But the truth was that underclass girls often wanted to have babies; they didn’t see it as a problem that they were young and unmarried. They did not follow the middle-class life script that read: protracted adolescence, college, first job, marriage—and only then children. They did not share the belief that children needed mature, educated mothers who would make their youngsters’ development the center of their lives. Access to birth control couldn’t change any of that.

That’s an awful lot of broad-brushing and unverifiable, racist assumptions right there.

(July 10, 2019 at 2:45 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(July 10, 2019 at 2:42 pm)Figbash Wrote:

Full?

Yet more delusions of the religious...

You're assuming it' s their penis - and not the penis of someone with a real one...

Heh

To answer the OP generally, many theists are overly concerned with what people do with their genitals because it stands to distract from drinking whatever nonsense Kool-Aid theists are selling, obviously.

The fact that that some of biggest pervs and predators in the world include professed theists is lost on them, of course. Plenty of them are perfectly okay with tolerating sicko criminal fuckery, so as long as the veneer of smiling, "good", godly family is being presented. AF's very own @Drich can be counted among those types. He hysterically blames "the gay sex" and black single motherhood for all of society ill's one breath, but fails to see what the "big deal" is with rape and fucking children when it comes to otherwise perfectly good hu-white men and Christian institutions.


So short answer: They're FULL OF SHIT.

Lol

I'm not, until it starts to ruin my life and hurt my interests.

For example; I don't care about somebody cutting their penis off. I also don't care about two men choosing to have sex with each other or two women doing the same. But I will surely be triggered if somebody had bareback sex and threatened my economic prosperity with a child that might result from their sexual encounter. A lot of people have bareback sex, have children, then throw them in the garbage to be somebody else's burden.

(July 10, 2019 at 3:36 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(July 10, 2019 at 2:48 pm)Drich Wrote: because it is always best to read what you want into one of 4 citations (that include the black wall street times) and then assume the worst.. you people kill me with how you are trained to race bait each other look for key words and stop thinking for yourselves and assume the worst..

how about this why don't you post the section that seem out of sorts to you just cut and paste. rather than make a sweeping dismissal of 4 sources that all say the same thing without any real evidence of any impropriety!

Who’s dismissing anything? I just said I haven’t read the other three articles yet. I have two kids to care for, ya know. As far as the first one goes, the author’s hypothesis seems to be ‘poor black communities are poor because their families are broken, and their families are broken because black ladies just wanna have babies out of wedlock.’ In fact, that’s really the closest she comes to attributing any sort of cause to the high incidence of children born into single-parent homes in these communities. “Because they just want to” as an explanation is not only a blanket assumption, it would be difficult, if not impossible to test. She also fails to mention other factors that likely contribute to children growing up fatherless, like the disproportionately high incarceration rates and lengthy prison sentences of black men in this country. At the end of the day, correlation doesn’t equal causation. Are many poor, black families broken because of cyclic poverty and disadvantage, or is there cyclic poverty and disadvantage in black communities because they tend not to have cohesive family structures? Or, is even that question an oversimplification of the issue framed in as false dichotomy? All I know is, ‘they don’t marry before having kids because that’s just how black folk are’ is a pretty racist hypothesis, IMO.

Here’s the exact quote:

Quote:But the truth was that underclass girls often wanted to have babies; they didn’t see it as a problem that they were young and unmarried. They did not follow the middle-class life script that read: protracted adolescence, college, first job, marriage—and only then children. They did not share the belief that children needed mature, educated mothers who would make their youngsters’ development the center of their lives. Access to birth control couldn’t change any of that.

That’s an awful lot of broad-brushing and unverifiable, racist assumptions right there.

You do know identifying a common social trait or a common social fault is not racism. racism is when you use such a trait to isolate or discriminate against a whole people. This study only points out the reason why people without fathers tend fail in this society. Again by the numbers because there are more white people, more white men experience this problem, but because even though a larger number of white men are affect a smaller percentage of the total population adopt this practice.
However because a larger percentage of the black community has adopted this social model higher percentage of males in that community are subject to this study's findings.

Again look which who dominates our prisons. Men with out fathers (white men without father first then black men without fathers.) 

This truth is not limited to black people however a larger portion of the black population has adopted this as a social norm for their community which results in a more pronounced failure to meet social prosperity.. Again by the numbers alone more whites experience this problem than black people, and live in similar if not worse conditions. However this larger number only represents a fraction of the total number of white people. where as a smaller number of actual black people represent a far greater percentage of the whole community living in the US.

(July 15, 2019 at 9:57 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I'm not, until it starts to ruin my life and hurt my interests.

For example; I don't care about somebody cutting their penis off. I also don't care about two men choosing to have sex with each other or two women doing the same. But I will surely be triggered if somebody had bareback sex and threatened my economic prosperity with a child that might result from their sexual encounter. A lot of people have bareback sex, have children, then throw them in the garbage to be somebody else's burden.

What exactly is bareback sex?

I feel like I am missing out.

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To answer the OP:

(July 3, 2019 at 4:56 pm)Losty Wrote: Why are you so concerned with what other people do with their genitals?

I reckon most people don't really know why and come up with contrived excuses for being so. The reason they are concerned though is because they've been told they should be. Normally by people either repressing their own sexual urges (closest gays) or assuming that everyone else has the same predatory urges as them (closet rapists).

(July 15, 2019 at 10:38 am)Mathilda Wrote:

(July 15, 2019 at 9:57 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I'm not, until it starts to ruin my life and hurt my interests.

For example; I don't care about somebody cutting their penis off. I also don't care about two men choosing to have sex with each other or two women doing the same. But I will surely be triggered if somebody had bareback sex and threatened my economic prosperity with a child that might result from their sexual encounter. A lot of people have bareback sex, have children, then throw them in the garbage to be somebody else's burden.

What exactly is bareback sex?

I feel like I am missing out.

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Having sex without condom.