First of all please excuse my english, it's not my original language.

every thing that existes must have a reason that made him come to existence right ?
you can't create something from nothing.
nothing comes to existance by coincidence, but if you say so then what brings this law of coincidence in existance.
the coincidence law it self need something to bring him to existance

the probleme is that if every thing needs a first reason to existe,
nothing will existe in first place.

why is that ?
because we need that very first reason that doesn't need a reason to exist that will begin the chaine of causes.

this first causes is called god, that will catalyst the existance.

First cause fallacy.

If everything needs a creator, what created your god?

If your answer is “nothing” that negates the claim that everything needs a creator.

Czech mate.

That was a short thread.

At work.

Hello Nogba!

There's also the point/issue that we have existing example of things in the 'Real World' having both 'No cause' or being 'Uncaused' which don't have the properties of any dieties behind said events.

Cheers.

Welcome! Please define nothing.

(July 13, 2019 at 7:16 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

Hello Nogba!

There's also the point/issue that we have existing example of things in the 'Real World' having both 'No cause' or being 'Uncaused' which don't have the properties of any dieties behind said events.

Cheers.

Not because they didn't find that they don't have a cause. It is impossible for a matter to exist from nothing but god yes because he is not made from matter.

(July 13, 2019 at 7:25 am)Nogba Wrote:

(July 13, 2019 at 7:16 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

Hello Nogba!

There's also the point/issue that we have existing example of things in the 'Real World' having both 'No cause' or being 'Uncaused' which don't have the properties of any dieties behind said events.

Cheers.

Not because they didn't find that they don't have a cause. It is impossible for a matter to exist from nothing but god yes because he is not made from matter.

What's he made from then?

At work.

(July 13, 2019 at 7:25 am)Nogba Wrote:

(July 13, 2019 at 7:16 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Hello Nogba!

There's also the point/issue that we have existing example of things in the 'Real World' having both 'No cause' or being 'Uncaused' which don't have the properties of any dieties behind said events.

Cheers.

Not because they didn't find that they don't have a cause. It is impossible for a matter to exist from nothing but god yes because he is not made from matter.

Both 'Hawking radiation' and 'Atomic decay' disagree/negate your assertion.

In fact, 'Hawking radiation' is exactly particles effectivly comming into existence where no particles had existed before.

Cheers

If everything needs a reason to exist, then you are locked into a preceding cause for God to exist (in other words, God was created by something else).  This gets you into an infinite regression of causes, which is a messy business at best, and doesn't help your argument.

Since, by your argument, God can't exist without a prior cause and you reject the possibility of such a cause, then God can't exist.  Since God can't exist and the universe clearly does, then you have managed to neatly disprove the existence of God.

Well done!!


Boru

"God" is an an ancient word that means "I don't know".


Where did the universe come from?

God.