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RE: On Occultism
September 6, 2019 at 2:50 pm
(September 6, 2019 at 2:03 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: I suppose it helped reading in a guitar magazine (I think it was Guitar One) about how the guy from the Alkaline Trio is a card-carrying member of the Church of Satan purely for the shock value.
Also, looking at the CoS website, I found a list of recommended books and films. Might be a good source to look into, though what an old Mr. Belvedere movie has to do with Satanism is a mystery for the ages.
They provide an interesting book list. The film list... I'm not so into. LaVey was very much into cheesy horror flicks and "B" movies, from what I can gather. I love the horror genre, but I'm not into the cheesy, over the top, almost comedic horror movies. Just not my taste.
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RE: On Occultism
September 7, 2019 at 12:24 am
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(September 6, 2019 at 2:50 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: (September 6, 2019 at 2:03 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: I suppose it helped reading in a guitar magazine (I think it was Guitar One) about how the guy from the Alkaline Trio is a card-carrying member of the Church of Satan purely for the shock value.
Also, looking at the CoS website, I found a list of recommended books and films. Might be a good source to look into, though what an old Mr. Belvedere movie has to do with Satanism is a mystery for the ages.
They provide an interesting book list. The film list... I'm not so into. LaVey was very much into cheesy horror flicks and "B" movies, from what I can gather. I love the horror genre, but I'm not into the cheesy, over the top, almost comedic horror movies. Just not my taste.
Weird, I actually found a lot more interesting things (at least among stuff that was available at my local library that I hadn't already read/seen) on the film list. Indeed, I went through the list and found I owned 26 of the films on the list:
- Asphalt Jungle
- Blade Runner
- Blue Velvet
- Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
- Carnival of Souls
- Citizen Kane
- 5000 Fingers of Dr. T
- Inherit the Wind
- Key Largo
- Kiss Me Deadly
- Koyaanisqatsi
- M
- Metropolis
- Night of the Hunter
- Radio Days
- Rosemary's Baby
- Ruling Class
- Simon of the Desert
- Stardust Memories
- Strangers on a Train
- Stepford Wives
- Treasure of the Sierr Madre
- Wicker Man
- Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
- Wise Blood
- Zelig.
And that's just the ones I own on DVD (except for Caligari, which I only own on Blu-Ray). Clearly not all cheesy horror movies. That said, there is a preponderance of B movies on the list, but by no means all. Kind of what you might expect when he performs music and latches onto this:
Odd note: somehow, Sons of the Desert didn't make the list. And also, despite The Circus of Dr. Lao making the book list, the movie adaptation The 7 Faces of Dr. Lao didn't. This may be because of the eminent domain plot Charles Beaumont invented for the movie.
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RE: On Occultism
September 7, 2019 at 12:33 am
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(September 7, 2019 at 12:24 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Weird, I actually found a lot more interesting things (at least among stuff that was available at my local library that I hadn't already read/seen) on the film list. Indeed, I went through the list and found I owned 26 of the films on the list:
- Asphalt Jungle
- Blade Runner
- Blue Velvet
- Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
- Carnival of Souls
- Citizen Kane
- 5000 Fingers of Dr. T
- Inherit the Wind
- Key Largo
- Kiss Me Deadly
- Koyaanisqatsi
- M
- Metropolis
- Night of the Hunter
- Radio Days
- Rosemary's Baby
- Ruling Class
- Simon of the Desert
- Stardust Memories
- Strangers on a Train
- Stepford Wives
- Treasure of the Sierr Madre
- Wicker Man
- Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
- Wise Blood
- Zelig.
And that's just the ones I own on DVD (except for Caligari, which I only own on Blu-Ray). Clearly not all cheesy horror movies. That said, there is a preponderance of B movies on the list, but by no means all. Kind of what you might expect when he performs music and latches onto this:
Odd note: somehow, Sons of the Desert didn't make the list. And also, despite The Circus of Dr. Lao making the book list, the movie adaptation The 7 Faces of Dr. Lao didn't.
Interesting!
Yea, there's definitely more than just the cheesy horror films there. I'd be interested to know why they include the titles they do in that list. I don't have much of a movie collection anymore; I used to consider myself a bit of a cinephile until I met a few real ones.
And yea, LaVey certainly had a thing for old-timey entertainment and showmanship.
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RE: On Occultism
September 7, 2019 at 12:39 am
Satanism--"It's a profit deal(The Jerk)" Demonism on the other hand: it's hard to discredit the stories from people who went to Africa for evangelism purposes. Also hard to dismiss is voodoo.
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RE: On Occultism
September 7, 2019 at 2:28 am
(September 7, 2019 at 12:39 am)Haipule Wrote: Also hard to dismiss is voodoo.
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RE: On Occultism
September 7, 2019 at 6:16 pm
They are no different than christians who brag about prayer results. Prayer and magic are no different. Same with Law of attraction people who swear it works or LaVeyan Satanists who brag about using ritual magic to hurt or heal people or make girls lust for them or people who call on "Spirit Guides" and claim they get signs and desires from them. Its all non-sense of course. If any of that was real I would be the first to use it as I would love to be able to make things happen like that but its all wishful thinking and reality does not give a damn about our wishes
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RE: On Occultism
September 7, 2019 at 6:36 pm
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(September 7, 2019 at 12:39 am)Haipule Wrote: it's hard to discredit the stories from people who went to Africa for evangelism purposes.
No it isn't.
Quote:Also hard to dismiss is voodoo.
No it isn't.
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RE: On Occultism
September 8, 2019 at 3:25 pm
Ritual and ritualism is the function of most of what you’ll see called magic in contemporary occultism.
It’s alot like meditation. Focus, introspection, just enough conceptual pageantry to set the experience aside.
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RE: On Occultism
September 8, 2019 at 9:40 pm
And they do all have a lost of excuses for when things fail be it prayer, magical spells, Spirit guides or spirit summoning, law of attraction, etc. Anything from you did not believe strong enough or you did not put enough into the ritual or it goes against your spiritual plan or Karma, it will happen when its suppose to even if it takes years and on and on.
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RE: On Occultism
September 11, 2019 at 8:45 pm
(September 8, 2019 at 9:40 pm)prhill Wrote: And they do all have a lost of excuses for when things fail be it prayer, magical spells, Spirit guides or spirit summoning, law of attraction, etc. Anything from you did not believe strong enough or you did not put enough into the ritual or it goes against your spiritual plan or Karma, it will happen when its suppose to even if it takes years and on and on. It's not your lack of faith: it's your lack of money--$40 and it's all yours!
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