Memory serves me right there was something about sacrificing himself, to himself to create a loophole for a rule he invented.

FSM being infinitely smarter wrote all its plans, pronouncements and recipes with dry erase marker.

(September 21, 2019 at 11:19 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Still not seeing your point. Are you saying the Temptation story is allegory?

And what you're doing here is cherry picking the OT verses that can be used to support your POV anyway.

It's nice to look at the immediate context first before looking elsewhere for a proper interpretation. Just because you can find "wilderness" in more than two places does not mean they must have the same sense of the term. Just because one passage is part of a poetic prophecy does not mean all other passages are the same.

That said, an argument could still be made that the Gospel stories were all intended to be allegory, and it can feel that way to some readers, but it would be good to have something concrete to go by rather than just intuition (and cherry picking verses).

Yeah I am cherrypicking and will have to use circular logic and reasoning to try to show my point.

I'm thinking each word needs to be learned before the context can be read. It is not a human language.
It seems to be a language of a law of heavens.

The people, animals, trees, metals, weapons, etc, are keywords.

Like the sun , moon, and stars are three keywords of the four levels of directions and each of them has three levels.
The keywords are for twelve gates.



I think it is not talking about the literal sun, moon, stars:

And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring. Luke 21:25

The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear. Habakkuk 3:11


Moon is Brass is Cattle is Spear
Star is Silver is Goat is Sword
Sun is Gold is Sheep is Bow
　

I think it is not talking about literal cattle, sheep, goats:

Rebuke the company of spearmen, the multitude of the bulls, with the calves of the people, till every one submit himself with pieces of silver: scatter thou the people that delight in war. Psalm 68:30

I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. Ecclesiastes 3:18

And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I judge between cattle and cattle, between the rams and the he goats. Ezekiel 34:17

For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Hebrews 10:4


　
Eat for yourselves and pasture your cattle: verily, in this are Signs for men endued with understanding. Quran 20:24

Or thinkest thou that most of them listen or understand? They are only like cattle;- nay, they are worse astray in Path. Quran 25:44

And We shall drive the sinners to Hell, like thirsty cattle driven down to water. Quran 19:86

Quote:Moon is Brass is Cattle is Spear
Star is Silver is Goat is Sword
Sun is Gold is Sheep is Bow
　

You've got that wrong.

Moon is Lead is Duck is Catapult
Star is Antimony is Pangolin is Cannonball
Sun is Tellurium is Alpaca is Halberd

If you do not repent of your addle-headed ways, you will surely be damned for all eternity.

Boru

(September 22, 2019 at 5:45 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You've got that wrong.

Moon is Lead is Duck is Catapult
Star is Antimony is Pangolin is Cannonball
Sun is Tellurium is Alpaca is Halberd

If you do not repent of your addle-headed ways, you will surely be damned for all eternity.

Boru

Perhaps your philosophers heart can turn lead into gold.
Maybe you can get a weapon from out of your stone.



　
Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the LORD of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the LORD of hosts. Zechariah 7:12
　
Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and ye shall eat your flesh as it were fire ye heaped treasure together for the last days. James 5:3

And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron. Deuteronomy 28:23
　
The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder melteth in vain: for the wicked are not plucked away. Jeremiah 6:29
And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. Zechariah 5:8
　
But all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the LORD: they shall come into the treasury of the LORD. Joshua 6:19
As they gather silver, and brass, and iron, and lead, and tin, into the midst of the furnace, to blow fire upon it, to melt it; so will I gather you in mine anger and in my fury, and I will leave you there, and melt you. Ezekiel 22:20