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Zakir Naik, Muslim Idiot.
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 (October 17, 2011 at 2:00 am)IATIA Wrote: Is it not amazing, all the beauty and splendor of our universe, from the brilliant galaxies and nebulae to the kitty cat next to me or the smell of fresh bread. And all this happened by chance. What could possibly be more astounding. I agree completely. Having an understanding of the science behind the complexities of nature makes it all the more breathtaking for me.
That will never hold up in court...
 (October 17, 2011 at 2:00 am)ruhollah Wrote: No, as a mere mortal I can't comprehend infinity...especially in a universe that depends on TIME and SPACE. But I'm sure in the hereafter (where there is no such thing as TIME/SPACE) the concept of infinity can be understood a lot better. There is no 'understanding' or anything else in an eternal oblivion. In your favor though, you will never know you were wrong.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy  RE: Zakir Naik, Muslim Idiot.
October 17, 2011 at 2:07 am
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2011 at 2:15 am by ruhollah.)
(October 17, 2011 at 2:00 am)IATIA Wrote: And all this happened by chance. What could possibly be more astounding. Yeah... it's by "chance" that planets orbit stars... a commone feature all over our universe it's by "chance" that matter follow fundamental laws of physics EVERY SINGLE time lol, give me a break (October 17, 2011 at 2:01 am)Rhythm Wrote: Evidence for the "hereafter"? That response is pretty empty if you can't demonstrate that at least. The concept of hereafter/spiritual world, is something I can discuss once you all have a better understanding of the religion. I suggest you all to spend some time reading the Quran from cover to cover. (October 17, 2011 at 2:06 am)IATIA Wrote:(October 17, 2011 at 2:00 am)ruhollah Wrote: No, as a mere mortal I can't comprehend infinity...especially in a universe that depends on TIME and SPACE. But I'm sure in the hereafter (where there is no such thing as TIME/SPACE) the concept of infinity can be understood a lot better. Maybe I should of said "comprehended" instead of "understood". I'm sure you get what I was trying to say.  RE: Zakir Naik, Muslim Idiot.
October 17, 2011 at 2:17 am
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2011 at 2:19 am by Epimethean.)
May you find peace in your antiquated delusions, but may they infect no one who has found the sanity of atheism, ruhollah.
I will suggest, though, that you read every book by Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Christopher Hitchens, Carl Sagan and David Sloan Wilson. Yes, just sit back and read. You will come to a conclusion. Chances are it will still be your wildly distorted delusional one, but hell, at least you'll have read good books which are not fairy tales.
Trying to update my sig ...
 (October 17, 2011 at 12:49 am)ruhollah Wrote: So do you get "positive energy" when you're out in nature? Do you feel the same way when you're in a busy city with flashing lights everywhere? No ruh they are NOT "from god/allah/yahewh/ jeebus/ Odin/ thor /zeus/ aphrodite or any of the other 2000 gods mankind has created. I think there have been many scientific studies that have covered the neuroscience of the feelings you describe. It's only in your own head...the mind is a wonderful tool for deluding the uneducated and unwary. I happen to love the City of Sydney...so what?? I love the Snowy Mountains and the Pacific Deep Ocean...big bloody deal! These are just things that I love...nothing to do with a deity or any other judgemental imbecile. "The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
No no, I'm convinced. He's right. The only possible explanation for the wonder and complexity of the universe is that an invisible deity created it all. It makes SO MUCH SENSE.
That will never hold up in court...
(October 17, 2011 at 2:21 am)ruhollah Wrote: And may you find peace in that your actions (good or bad) in this world will have no consequences whatsoever once you die. So what? That doesn't mean that I'm going to go out and start killing people. I want the world to be a better place and I live my life accordingly. I don't need some fucking reward to be a good person. Good deeds motivated by a fear of what awaits you after you die are hardly good deeds.
That will never hold up in court...
Only children NEED a "reward" for being good ruh.
Atheist adults just do what is good. "The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
(October 17, 2011 at 2:17 am)Epimethean Wrote: I will suggest, though, that you read every book by Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Christopher Hitchens, Carl Sagan and David Sloan Wilson. Yes, just sit back and read. You will come to a conclusion. Chances are it will still be your wildly distorted delusional one, but hell, at least you'll have read good books which are not fairy tales. Can you recommend me just one book, just like I recommended you one book. |
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