I got beat as a kid. I sure as hell wan't bringing that onto my kids. Taking away favorite playthings worked wonders.

Spanking is bad M'kay

I've heard the argument that children don't understand reason so that is a good reason to use corporal punishment, but... if they don't understand reason they certainly aren't going to understand you hitting them. That being said I have hit my children out of frustration. I try never to do that, but I understand why people hit their children. Much of the reason I have done it was because it was done to me so I'm hard wired to hit them. I haven't in a while and have apologized every time I have lost my cool.

They dont have to understand. They just have to avoid pain.

(November 6, 2019 at 12:13 pm)Fireball Wrote: I got beat as a kid. I sure as hell wan't bringing that onto my kids. Taking away favorite playthings worked wonders.

You shot their dog?

I generally don't care for spanking kids, but I've got enough sense to know that there are circumstances in which there can be a good reason to hit anyone.
Including one's child.

For example, kids who like disappearing into woods and shit whenever they want to comes to mind. If you explain to them why it's dangerous, ground them, take away their electronic crap, show em the milk carton, and they STILL keep slipping off and disappearing whenever it strikes their fancy, then yes, a spanking might be necessary to drive the critical message "You DO NOT wander off" into their head. It's a much kinder alternative to what could happen if they continue pull such a stunt. There are numerous ways that sort of behavior could end in a tragedy much, much worse than an isolated spanking.

You could find them they drowned, dead from exposure, naked in a ditch or a dumpster, or never at all the next time. 

If they're engaged in knuckled-headed behavior that presents danger to themselves or others, and they're not able to "get it" for some reason, sometimes parents have to count the costs and do what they've gotta do. So long as they're not beating their kids, or constantly resorting to spanking in lieu of actual parenting, I'm not inclined to think of them as child abusers.

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(November 6, 2019 at 12:13 pm)Fireball Wrote: Taking away favorite playthings worked wonders.

Yup, works like a charm; Especially nowadays.
Most kids would rather be spanked then lose access to all their devices and shit.

Lol...Fuggin' junkies.

The problem of kids wandering off was solved when they came out with child leashes, or using a fence, but so many people had a conniption at the idea of leashing children that it didn't last. I wouldn't have to hit them. I'd just tie them to me. Although you could also tell them that if they hate staying at home so much, they can live in the woods, and I can make another child.

I never cease to be amazed at the lengths to which people will go to justify hitting children.

Boru

(November 6, 2019 at 12:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(November 6, 2019 at 12:13 pm)Fireball Wrote: I got beat as a kid. I sure as hell wan't bringing that onto my kids. Taking away favorite playthings worked wonders.

You shot their dog?

No, stuff like computer games. That had immense power over my eldest son. He even wrote on Facebook (my wife saw it) one time that if he ever had kids he'd never ground them from their computer games. I guess he's traumatized. 

(November 6, 2019 at 2:11 pm)Chad32 Wrote: The problem of kids wandering off was solved when they came out with child leashes, or using a fence, but so many people had a conniption at the idea of leashing children that it didn't last. I wouldn't have to hit them. I'd just tie them to me. Although you could also tell them that if they hate staying at home so much, they can live in the woods, and I can make another child.

Child leases are for toddlers, though. 

LOL..."Leashing" a 9 or 10 year-old and keeping them tethered to you 16 hours a day is probably guaranteed to inflict more psychological damage than a few swats on the ass.

(November 6, 2019 at 1:36 pm)Athene Wrote: I generally don't care for spanking kids, but I've got enough sense to know that there are circumstances in which there can be a good reason to hit anyone.
Including one's child.

For example, kids who like disappearing into woods and shit whenever they want to comes to mind. If you explain to them why it's dangerous, ground them, take away their electronic crap, show em the milk carton, and they STILL keep slipping off and disappearing whenever it strikes their fancy, then yes, a spanking might be necessary to drive the critical message "You DO NOT wander off" into their head. It's a much kinder alternative to what could happen if they continue pull such a stunt. There are numerous ways that sort of behavior could end in a tragedy much, much worse than an isolated spanking.

You could find them they drowned, dead from exposure, naked in a ditch or a dumpster, or never at all the next time. 

If they're engaged in knuckled-headed behavior that presents danger to themselves or others, and they're not able to "get it" for some reason, sometimes parents have to count the costs and do what they've gotta do. So long as they're not beating their kids, or constantly resorting to spanking in lieu of actual parenting, I'm not inclined to think of them as child abusers.

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(November 6, 2019 at 12:13 pm)Fireball Wrote: Taking away favorite playthings worked wonders.

Yup, works like a charm; Especially nowadays.
Most kids would rather be spanked then lose access to all their devices and shit.

Lol...Fuggin' junkies.

My eldest decided at the age of 4 or 5 to take a walk around the block. Relief at having him return home saved him a yelling at, but he sat in the corner as punishment for so long that he fell asleep.