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[Serious] Time to embrace Islam!
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 (November 29, 2019 at 6:33 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(November 29, 2019 at 6:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No, it's anti-terrorist, not anti-Muslim. Personally, I am anti-muslim, anti christian, pretty much any and all of the superstious nonsense. To me, it all resides in the realm of Santa Clause. 
Why should I regard your fairy story as more accurate than any of the others?
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.
Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!  (November 30, 2019 at 8:22 am)Klorophyll Wrote:(November 30, 2019 at 6:03 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: OP: "Time to embrace Islam. Why? Because Ad hominem logical fallacy toward Dawkins and Hitchens. It is you who is ignoring what they said and instead of, let's say, quoting them, you talk about them personally which is why it is called Ad hominem fallacy. Needless to say that kind of approach won't impress anyone here. (November 30, 2019 at 8:22 am)Klorophyll Wrote: Christianity was secularized some centuries ago and most christians are ok with their religion being a bunch of mutually exclusive denominations. I don't think it's fair to compare that with Islam, which remained uncompromising since it began to exist. Oh, if they're so ok with denominations why were Catholics and protestants killing each other in Ireland till quite recently?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
 (November 30, 2019 at 9:42 am)Klorophyll Wrote:No. It's not a battle royal. What was presented to you was clear. Gymnastic jumps only complicate your way to the goal.(November 30, 2019 at 9:31 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: They are scattered. Quote:I am. And you're cowardly trying to dodge my question. Where is the numbers of prayers per day in the Qur'an ? direct answer please. 3 not 5. I answered for the sake of the argument. Next time behave yourself when you ask; troll. Quote:So, that highly regarded intellectuals in your side prove to be ignorant about the basics of a religion they confidently and consistently insult, isn't evidence for you people that you should look up harder? Yes. My only Imam is my brain; maybe that's why I can communicate with people.  RE: Time to embrace Islam!
November 30, 2019 at 10:57 am
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(November 30, 2019 at 10:42 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: It is you who is ignoring what they said and instead of, let's say, quoting them, you talk about them personally which is why it is called Ad hominem fallacy. Needless to say that kind of approach won't impress anyone here. I did quote them, you can find the references by spending five seconds typing the right keywords in Google search. And if you think the statement "Dawkins didn't read the Qur'an" is ad hominem, you're kindly asked to review your definition of the fallacy. (November 30, 2019 at 10:46 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: 3 not 5. Wrong answer. You should change your religious views from Muslim(neither sunni, nor shia but my own imaginary denomination instead) to random guy who prays three times a day because his brain told him so. (November 30, 2019 at 10:57 am)Klorophyll Wrote: What do you suggest for me to follow? Shiite twelver Islam, or Sunni Wahhabi Islam? RE: Time to embrace Islam!
November 30, 2019 at 11:05 am
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(November 30, 2019 at 8:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Could you list some of these prophetic claims? I already mentioned Muhammad successfully challenging his contemporaries with the Qur'an, despite their high proficiency with Arabic, they chose to prosecute him instead of responding intellectually. So Muhammad's claim that the Qur'an cannot be man made becomes more credible. (November 30, 2019 at 11:04 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(November 30, 2019 at 10:57 am)Klorophyll Wrote: I suggest Sunni Islam, makes a lot more sense than the shiite doctrine claiming that Ali's should've been the first caliph according to .. the Qur'an (November 30, 2019 at 10:57 am)Klorophyll Wrote:(November 30, 2019 at 10:42 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: It is you who is ignoring what they said and instead of, let's say, quoting them, you talk about them personally which is why it is called Ad hominem fallacy. Needless to say that kind of approach won't impress anyone here. Again, that's no argument "He didn't read the Koran" but avoiding his actual claims that he said about Islam and because, I'm assuming, you can't handle them. A lot of people didn't read "Mein Kampf" but can make true criticism about Nazism and Fascism.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
(November 30, 2019 at 11:05 am)Klorophyll Wrote: You don't comment as a Sunni; probably you're a Shiite twelver undercover. Right is left, left is right War is peace Love is hate Taqiya is a rough job. But anyways your suggestion don't serve me 
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 Leader of the gang of jerkoffs(tm)  Religious Views: L'Uomo verrà portato dalla sua creazione (November 30, 2019 at 11:16 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(November 30, 2019 at 11:05 am)Klorophyll Wrote: I know i have directed rough words towards you, including calling you a coward IIRC. I was wrong and alologize. |
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