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The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
(December 10, 2019 at 9:08 am)SUNGULA Wrote:
(December 10, 2019 at 9:05 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: You get what you pay for. That's fairness.
That's not how that works .You paid to fund the government and public services nothing else .

I should receive amount of public services that is proportional to my payment.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
(December 10, 2019 at 9:19 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(December 10, 2019 at 9:08 am)SUNGULA Wrote: That's not how that works .You paid to fund the government and public services nothing else .

I should receive amount of public services that is proportional to my payment.

What makes you think you don't?

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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
(December 10, 2019 at 9:02 am)SUNGULA Wrote:
(December 10, 2019 at 8:48 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: She received her fair share of public spending since taxes are paid mostly by the rich.
Nope you don't get to spend public money because you pay more taxes .Taxes are about serving the public interest and the functions of  good government .Nobody has the right to use them of frivolous personnel luxuries .

Anyway rich people don't pay more taxes than poor people, unless they are extremely altruistic and public minded. If the rich were willing to pay their fair share of taxes there'd be no accountants.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
(December 10, 2019 at 9:19 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(December 10, 2019 at 9:08 am)SUNGULA Wrote: That's not how that works .You paid to fund the government and public services nothing else .

I should receive amount of public services that is proportional to my payment.
No you pay and get the same as everyone else and yes that's fair
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
(December 10, 2019 at 4:23 pm)Nomad Wrote:
(December 10, 2019 at 9:02 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Nope you don't get to spend public money because you pay more taxes .Taxes are about serving the public interest and the functions of  good government .Nobody has the right to use them of frivolous personnel luxuries .

Anyway rich people don't pay more taxes than poor people, unless they are extremely altruistic and public minded.  If the rich were willing to pay their fair share of taxes there'd be no accountants.

They absolutely do. Most of US tax revenue comes from rich people

(December 10, 2019 at 7:13 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:
(December 10, 2019 at 9:19 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: I should receive amount of public services that is proportional to my payment.
No you pay and get the same as everyone else and yes that's fair

I paid more and I should receive more.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
(December 10, 2019 at 9:51 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(December 10, 2019 at 4:23 pm)Nomad Wrote: Anyway rich people don't pay more taxes than poor people, unless they are extremely altruistic and public minded.  If the rich were willing to pay their fair share of taxes there'd be no accountants.

They absolutely do. Most of US tax revenue comes from rich people

(December 10, 2019 at 7:13 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: No you pay and get the same as everyone else and yes that's fair

I paid more and I should receive more.
Nope you pay more and get the same as everyone else

Quote:They absolutely do. Most of US tax revenue comes from rich people
False
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
(December 10, 2019 at 10:49 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Nope you pay more and get the same as everyone else
If I get the same as everyone else then I shouldn't pay more than everyone else
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Quote:They absolutely do. Most of US tax revenue comes from rich people
False
https://www.pgpf.org/budget-basics/who-pays-taxes

[Image: The-top-twenty-percent-of-taxpayers-cont...nually.jpg]
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
(December 10, 2019 at 11:43 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(December 10, 2019 at 10:49 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Nope you pay more and get the same as everyone else
If I get the same as everyone else then I shouldn't pay more than everyone else
Quote:False
https://www.pgpf.org/budget-basics/who-pays-taxes

[Image: The-top-twenty-percent-of-taxpayers-cont...nually.jpg]
Face palm you really suck at sourcing. A chart from a foundation founded by a Billionaire Right wing pay master ......

But even if we grant your assumption .It doesn't change the overall point.The rich are not entitled to more .
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
(December 11, 2019 at 12:09 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Face palm you really suck at sourcing. A chart from a foundation founded by a Billionaire Right wing pay master ......
https://www.wsj.com/articles/top-20-of-a...1523007001
Quote:The rich are not entitled to more .
The rich pay more and should receive more.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
(December 11, 2019 at 12:59 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: The rich pay more and should receive more.

Trump doesn't pay any taxes.



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