(December 17, 2019 at 2:43 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(December 17, 2019 at 2:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I suppose it would take a genuine miracle, not just a statistically unlikely event.  Any of the following would qualify:

-All fourteen year old children becoming seven year old children.

-All marsupials speaking Finnish.

-Oysters gaining the power of flight (flinging them doesn't count).

-The formation of a one-world government, with the adoption of Chuck Berry's 'My Ding-a-Ling' as the official anthem.

-The sudden replacement of the Moon by a blob of red currant jam.

-The appearance of Lupita Nyong'o in my kitchen, naked and cooking me pancakes, and my wife NOT minding.

Boru

Boru NOT signing every post with “Boru”.

You know, a GENUINE miracle.

And I shall now prove that God doesn't exist:

Boru

(December 17, 2019 at 2:45 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 17, 2019 at 2:43 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Boru NOT signing every post with “Boru”.

You know, a GENUINE miracle.

And I shall now prove that God doesn't exist:

Boru

Can’t get more conclusive than that.

Atheists 1: god nil.

All of those could be a trick by a substantially advanced species though so it really is a tricky question.

(December 17, 2019 at 2:59 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: All of those could be a trick by a substantially advanced species though so it really is a tricky question.

I’ve Never thought of Boru as a substantially advanced species...

He's amusing at most times and his blunt force comments to Brian always amuse

(December 17, 2019 at 2:07 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote:

(December 17, 2019 at 1:53 pm)Succubus Wrote: No. You're not pulling that trick, show us what you have and we'll take a look at it.

I've never thought of that as a trick question. I was a Nazarene for a long time, like more than a decade, and when I encountered people that didn't believe I was befuddled because God was such an obviously real thing to me. I used to wonder what it would take to show atheists the "truth". It really is a good question hopefully maxolla will pay attention to honest answers to that question.

It is a trick question though, it's a rabbit hole question. No matter what is proposed as convincing evidence there will always be a counter to it.

"All fourteen year old children becoming seven year old children."

Ya'but, how do you know it wasn't a highly advanced alien race?

And so it goes, they will always have an out.

Edit: Ninja'd by your good self.

(December 17, 2019 at 3:13 pm)Succubus Wrote:

(December 17, 2019 at 2:07 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: I've never thought of that as a trick question. I was a Nazarene for a long time, like more than a decade, and when I encountered people that didn't believe I was befuddled because God was such an obviously real thing to me. I used to wonder what it would take to show atheists the "truth". It really is a good question hopefully maxolla will pay attention to honest answers to that question.

It is a trick question though, it's a rabbit hole question. No matter what is proposed as convincing evidence there will always be a counter to it.

"All fourteen year old children becoming seven year old children."

Ya'but, how do you know it wasn't a highly advanced alien race?

And so it goes, they will always have an out.

Edit: Ninja'd by your good self.

I just mean that the question itself isn't necessarily a trick and if it is meant as a trick, the person must be horribly obtuse

(December 17, 2019 at 3:04 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(December 17, 2019 at 2:59 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: All of those could be a trick by a substantially advanced species though so it really is a tricky question.

I’ve Never thought of Boru as a substantially advanced species...

I'm so advanced that you haven't noticed.  Clever of me, innit?

Boru

(December 17, 2019 at 1:40 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote:

(December 17, 2019 at 1:09 pm)maxolla Wrote: What would be a proper demonstration of existence?  What would a God have to do to prove to you that it existed?

Those are good questions. I don't know the answer but so far all of my experience with religion has failed to provide that proof. I would imagine a being worthy of the title "God" would be able to provide proof OR it has a plan in obscuring itself and would would be benevolent enough to NOT condemn me for my failure to believe.


I provide a reverse Pascal's Wager:

God is purposely obscuring Themself so as to occlude all possible experience that They exist

By design you are not meant to experience God

When you die and are before the Fountain you will be asked if you believe in God, if no, you will get into the full monty Cliborg (My God doesn't believe in heaven or hell instead They have Cliborg), if you say yes you will be asked to prove God exists and when you CAN'T as you couldn't your whole life, you will be sent to...

...Cliborg lite a dimmer version of Cliborg but still pretty great because my God isn't a lame douch nozzle

SO by believing in God without any good reason you are condemning yourself to Cliborg Lite but no worries because it is still pretty great.

QED

How do you know that they have failed to provide you the proof if you don’t know what the proof is?

Boru signs his posts so he'll remember who wrote them.