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What do you think about the immigration crisis?
#31
RE: What do you think about the immigration crisis?
(January 31, 2020 at 9:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 31, 2020 at 9:00 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Boris closed the doors of the UK in my face with his bigot laws. All the people who were affected by the UK's selling of weapons to Arab warlords -and even training the butchers how to kill us- will have 1 less escape route.

Stop evading the question.  To which country were you referring when you said 

Quote:And now they take away my right to live abroad? in the country they took away from me and my people? 

Boru

I told you that I consider all earth to be my home, that means I don't quite respect the borders some wacko with a superiority complex drew on a paper.

The UK is obligated to offer me a home instead of the one their weapons burn, Boris wants to sell weapons that ruin my home and get away with it.
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#32
RE: What do you think about the immigration crisis?
So you're one of those 'sovereign people'?
Are you a member of the EU? I thought you were Turkish and thus it was Brussels that slammed the door in your face.
Though not to worry, I suspect Putin has designs on the Bosphorus so your ability to go somewhere else may yet increase. Provided you survive the 'adjustment in administration' of course.
As for India it was Muhammad Ali Jinnah who pushed for partition and thus the division along religious lines against Britain's and Gandhi's intention to retain a unified state.
I don't expect you accept any of that, the propaganda is obviously well bedded in.
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
-Esquilax

Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.
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#33
RE: What do you think about the immigration crisis?
(January 31, 2020 at 11:28 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(January 31, 2020 at 9:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Stop evading the question.  To which country were you referring when you said 


Boru

I told you that I consider all earth to be my home, that means I don't quite respect the borders some wacko with a superiority complex drew on a paper.

The UK is obligated to offer me a home instead of the one their weapons burn, Boris wants to sell weapons that ruin my home and get away with it.

No new immigration laws have been enacted under Boris Johnson.  What are you on about?

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#34
RE: What do you think about the immigration crisis?
(February 1, 2020 at 6:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 31, 2020 at 11:28 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: I told you that I consider all earth to be my home, that means I don't quite respect the borders some wacko with a superiority complex drew on a paper.

The UK is obligated to offer me a home instead of the one their weapons burn, Boris wants to sell weapons that ruin my home and get away with it.

No new immigration laws have been enacted under Boris Johnson.  What are you on about?

Boru

He wants to push "Australia based system", and I read that European students and college-staffs already began to move out of the UK
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#35
RE: What do you think about the immigration crisis?
(January 29, 2020 at 5:32 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: Fear-mongering that those refugees are actually terrorists who will kill us all. Or that immigration would somehow destroy our economy (ironically, those same people talk also that emmigration will destroy our economy). And, last but not the least, that it's important to protect the borders of the European Union so that we get into the Schengen "free-movement and free-trade" (if you ask me, it's neither of those things) zone.

Then I'd have to say that's a bit ignorant and close-minded. If we should be afraid of refugees potentially being terrorists, then I suppose we should also be afraid of any immigrant, legal or otherwise, potentially being a terrorist or criminal of some kind. Hell, at that rate, you might as well suspect any and everyone of being a terrorist or criminal. Though, I suppose that's how a lot of people in law enforcement think. Must be a shitty way to live to constantly be paranoid of everyone around you.

What I don't understand about people who think refugees are potential terrorists is, why do these people believe terrorists would enter the country that way? Is it some grand conspiracy just to get a few terrorists into a region, mixed in with, let's say, 5,000 normal civilians? Or do they just believe that, out of 5,000 refugees from a Muslim country, that some of them must be terrorists? I'm not sure which line of thinking is more stupid.

Mind you, Islamic extremists are far common than a lot of misguided, or, at times, willfully ignorant, liberals would have you think, but they're certainly not as plentiful as a lot of misguided, or, at times, willfully ignorant, conservatives would have you think. In the grand scheme of things, Islamic extremists are certainly not common. They're actually pretty damn rare when you consider how many Muslims there are in the world.

So, yeah, denying refugees out of fear of some of them potentially being terrorists is pretty fucking ignorant. Then again, would I choose to give shelter to a group of homeless people that showed up at my front door in the middle of the night? Probably not, because it isn't my fucking problem. Obviously, the situations are ridiculously different, but guess what? I'd respect people a lot more if they simply said, "Hey, we don't want refugees here because they're not our problem."

But, that's clearly not the issue is it? It's often fueled by racism and/or Islamophobia.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#36
RE: What do you think about the immigration crisis?
(February 2, 2020 at 12:27 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(February 1, 2020 at 6:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No new immigration laws have been enacted under Boris Johnson.  What are you on about?

Boru

He wants to push "Australia based system", and I read that European students and college-staffs already began to move out of the UK

Colleges/universities are looking towards Asia and Africa for foreign students as we won't be part of the ERASMUS scheme. Though this doesn't have any obvious relationship to arms deals/immigration status or imply any obligation to buy new homes.
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
-Esquilax

Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.
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#37
RE: What do you think about the immigration crisis?
(February 2, 2020 at 12:27 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(February 1, 2020 at 6:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No new immigration laws have been enacted under Boris Johnson.  What are you on about?

Boru

He wants to push "Australia based system", and I read that European students and college-staffs already began to move out of the UK

Ok, so we've moved from want Johnson hasn't done to what he wants to do.

If you're in the EU, you've got another ten months to move to the UK.  Get cracking.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#38
RE: What do you think about the immigration crisis?
(January 27, 2020 at 4:27 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: So, what do you guys here think about the immigration crisis? Do you think we should do something about it? I think anything we might do about it would be a serious human rights violation, and I've just made a video explaining why.

It boils down to maths and massaging the maths into human growth and movement.
So here in England we only have 2300M^2 per person which is roughly the same as india.
We can't afford anymore cramping in the lower class part of this land share so we need to somehow massage together with other nations to much over clumping considering there's roughly 80000M^2 per person globally.
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